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Old 07-17-2017, 12:13 PM   #1
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OpenSUSE LXDE User Needs Help Getting a Media Indicator Up On My Panel


Hi all,

I am an OpenSUSE LXDE user, and I really need some help getting getting a particular media indicator up on my panel. The principle files involved are called indicator-sound, and indicator-sound-gtk2, and work in tandem to act as a system sound indicator - providing easy, drop-down-menu control of the PulseAudio sound daemon. Moreover, this little jewel's sound menu also provides integration with several multimedia players - I've used it, on-and-off for years. Yesterday, I noticed that indicator-sound, along with its indicator-sound-gtk2, still exists in the semi-official X11 software repos - so I installed them, and their half-dozen, tiny, Ubuntu dependencies via Yast2.

My work situation calls for a quick-control feature, of some sort, and his little app has the ability to toggle the active media player's volume and pause features - as if it were a full-fledged system tray. Three days ago, I upgraded to the stable Linux desktop-client for Spotify - which no longer sports a system tray controller - therefore, I must get this indicator for displaying a drop-down, unified sound menu. The few sites providing help, to get it to show up on the panel, explain that - although it used to work for everyone, right out-of-the-box, Unity took it over; and now non-Unity users merely have to change the executive command to get it to launch for their precise distro. Well, I am familiar with that concept - and pointed to the file, and such - but to no avail.

I know it can be done successfully; because I read where Lubuntu users still enjoy it; and due to the fact that it is still in our regular OpenSUSE repos, I am assuming that some of us Lizards are also utilizing this on-the-job necessity.

Here is a post where LXDE users (but not I) found success - maybe I missed something:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs...onger_working/

I was really hoping one of you gurus would take it under your wing and save the day for us SUSE-based, on-the-job, Spotify users - who need this app to quickly control their music when the phone rings, or the boss or a client walks in, etc. After researching why the new Spotify desktop-client is missing a system tray, I simultaneously found out that many Spotify users were forced to go back to the beta desktop-client because of this new deficit.

My panel is not the standard lxpanel, but alternatively, lxpanelx - "Lightweight X11 desktop panel, based on lxpanel. LXPanelx is a fork of lightweight X11 desktop panel. It provides more flexible taskbar plugin configuration and many other improvements, that are absent in original lxpanel."

Thank you!

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Old 07-18-2017, 10:09 PM   #2
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Hi:

You should be able to add Spotify to your system tray. If that fails, another way might be to add it to your panel via panel preferences> add new items.

https://forums.opensuse.org/content....e-the-easy-way

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/spotify

Since you upgraded and there isn't support for the icon in the tray I don't know a way to get around that; sorry.
Maybe others will know how.

Where you able to replace the 'Exec' line with this argument in a text editor and restart?

Code:
Exec=/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service
I'm not booted into my Open Suse distro at the moment but I'll look tomorrow. It's getting late.
I'll look in Yast2 and see if I can find what your looking for to install.
 
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Give this a try:

https://forums.opensuse.org/showthre...y-icon-missing
 
Old 07-19-2017, 10:32 AM   #4
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Since you upgraded and there isn't support for the icon in the tray I don't know a way to get around that
Exec=/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service did not work, for whatever reason, Ztcoracat; but any panel app which has the drop-down pause/play/stop & volume toggles is what I need. My exhaustive searches (Yast, and the hundreds of audio apps on major Linux & GTK sites) only come up with KDE or GNOME3 specific apps, and ancient-archived stuff, that do what I need - so I am still banking on merely getting this original app up on the panel and working.

The app I am struggling with has all of what I need - and I have it used plenty - just not in a couple of years. Maybe a tiny change in indicator-sound's argument, at issue, is relevant now; due to the fact that the link we are looking at is a few years old. Or maybe I am missing a simple piece of the puzzle. It looks like you are the only one who may be willing to see this through though - and I really appreciate that!

catsartpics is some neat art, BTW!

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Old 07-19-2017, 11:29 AM   #5
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My exhaustive searches (Yast, and the hundreds of audio apps on major Linux & GTK sites) only come up with KDE or GNOME3 specific apps, and ancient-archived stuff, that do what I need - so I am still banking on merely getting this original app up on the panel and working.
It's just an idea but you could try installing the Gnome Desktop and see if that gives you the app in the tray that you need.
If Gnome doesn't work for you just use zypper to remove it.

Can you add Spotify icon to the tray through the panel preferences?

Glad you liked catartpics. Thanks!

The only other thing I can think of is tweaking the config file for Spotify so that it will add the icon to the system tray if you can't add it through panel preferences. You would have to have just the right argument in the config file for that to happen.
 
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Can you add Spotify icon to the tray through the panel preferences?
If I did that, I would have the icon in my tray instead of on my task-bar/panel tab - and that would seem perfect until my right click on the newly placed icon only displayed the menu with 'properties,' and such on it. I need to have that small drop-down menu sporting the media player controls - and that functionality was dropped from Spotify, making their icon merely a launcher now. So I just need to get the command/argument to launch my indicator-sound package (d-bus) in tandem with its indicator-sound-gtk2 (the tiny gui).
 
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I think the package you want is here at the Open Suse package search.

https://software.opensuse.org/search...%3ALeap%3A42.2

Than here is the indicator-sound-gtk2 package: (not sure if you need that) I'd try installing the first pkg and see what happens.

https://software.opensuse.org/packag...tor-sound-gtk2

You may have to reboot in order for it to work.

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Old 07-19-2017, 06:00 PM   #8
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The principle files involved are called indicator-sound, and indicator-sound-gtk2, and work in tandem to act as a system sound indicator - providing easy, drop-down-menu control of the PulseAudio sound daemon
I rest my case!

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Old 07-19-2017, 08:07 PM   #9
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The closest cmd that I found was this:

Code:
gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.sound visible true
I'd think that you would replace com.canonical with com.opensuse.

Here's the page I'm going from-
https://askubuntu.com/questions/4833...reen-top-14-04
 
Old 07-21-2017, 10:38 AM   #10
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I put a SUSE build in a laptop of mine, to go at this challenge with another box. When I finally get the thing to finally configure its wifi connection, I'll start over with some of this latest advice. That will be in a few hours; and in the mean time, know that you are highly appreciated - regardless of the turnout - you help me discover more of the world of Linux. After over 2 years with it - a college-level Linux OS class - and most of that time building OS's from scratch over at Suse Studio, I still feel like a 1st-month newbie with this one (and lots of other stuff).
 
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Thank You.-
 
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Hi again Ztcoracat,

Giving my laptop a chance with a Suse build was not fruitful, so I went on ahead and installed Lubuntu on that laptop - owing to the fact that it is Ubuntu-based - just like the panel app. Plus, the whole set of these same indicator packages is already pre-installed on that model of LXDE. Nevertheless, nothing happens when you click on Lubuntu's version of my needed audio-app either; so I just uninstalled that temporary OS out of frustration (instead of spending another several hours tearing Lubuntu apart looking for their fix - which isn't even my type of LXDE to begin with - yielding me the potential for new, additional, crossover tweaks - absolute madness).

I'll re-visit all of this - as I generally do with these sorts of things - soon enough; and I'll get you going again - if you have interest in the progress of such an elusive quest as this have proven to be.

Thanks!
 
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Hi again Ztcoracat,

Giving my laptop a chance with a Suse build was not fruitful, so I went on ahead and installed Lubuntu on that laptop - owing to the fact that it is Ubuntu-based - just like the panel app. Plus, the whole set of these same indicator packages is already pre-installed on that model of LXDE. Nevertheless, nothing happens when you click on Lubuntu's version of my needed audio-app either; so I just uninstalled that temporary OS out of frustration (instead of spending another several hours tearing Lubuntu apart looking for their fix - which isn't even my type of LXDE to begin with - yielding me the potential for new, additional, crossover tweaks - absolute madness).

I'll re-visit all of this - as I generally do with these sorts of things - soon enough; and I'll get you going again - if you have interest in the progress of such an elusive quest as this have proven to be.

Thanks!
Sorry to hear Lubuntu didn't work out for you.

I went through a lot of distro's myself until I finally found one that didn't give me problems.
This is why I run Slackware. It's rock solid:-

Maybe give Debian a spin?
 
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Maybe give Debian a spin?
I almost have, a hundred times - and I was probably thinking about it when you posted this - hahaha. I guess the fact that I am able to build my own Suse boxes, over at the Suse Studio - coupled with the fact that I want the newer features (Debian is known for ultra-stable, dustier versions of everything which goes in the OS), is probably why I haven't. I am going to look into building a Debian via the Ubuntu-Mini iso and Synaptic. You'll be one of the first to know how that goes. I tried it a couple of years ago, with that popular kit supplied for all of that, but it was too depreciated to work correctly.

Talk to you soon!
 
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I almost have, a hundred times - and I was probably thinking about it when you posted this - hahaha. I guess the fact that I am able to build my own Suse boxes, over at the Suse Studio - coupled with the fact that I want the newer features (Debian is known for ultra-stable, dustier versions of everything which goes in the OS), is probably why I haven't. I am going to look into building a Debian via the Ubuntu-Mini iso and Synaptic. You'll be one of the first to know how that goes. I tried it a couple of years ago, with that popular kit supplied for all of that, but it was too depreciated to work correctly.

Talk to you soon!
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