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Old 12-16-2013, 11:29 AM   #1
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Opensuse 13.1 - GOING BACKWARDS

Hi there
what's up with OPENSUSE these days - it seems while the latest distro has some nice eye candy (rel 13.1) there are major issues for typical users.

1) getting any sort of Video playing to work is a real pain -- you can get it to work but it's going through hoops - and if you want to use VLC then you have to "corrupt" your system a bit by down levelling some libraries to release 12.

2) VMware workstation release 10 doesn't install

I've been using SUSE for YEARS - even before NOVELL took it over - but the recent set of distros are just becoming too problem ridden -- the last really good release IMO was around release 10. (The SLES / SLED server / commercial stuff is OK but not really suitable for home desktop users who like tinkering with their systems).

I tried DEBIAN wheezy (7.3) for the first time ever - always thinking it would be a hideously complicated distro

Guess what - everything worked straight out of the box including multi-media video and DVD playing/dev/sdn -- using a nice lightweight distro -- and VMware workstation installed with a couple of easy commands.

OK the desktop doesn't have so much eye candy and the kernel might be very slightly older but everything worked (apart from 3-D settings for the GUEST windows VM on VMware workstation - and that's no biggie.

I think I might just stay with DEBIAN from now on - certainly until SUSE gets stuff sorted - it might learn something also from the very easy apt-get install for managing software too.

Perhaps a longer time between STABLE releases so most things a normal desktop / laptop user wants will work straight out of the box.


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Old 12-16-2013, 06:46 PM   #2
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getting any sort of Video playing to work is a real pain -- you can get it to work but it's going through hoops
what's new ?????
" restricted formats "

it has always been this way
as in there is almost no documentation for using " packman" repo
and setting "allow vender change" in yast to allow packman to work right

install smplayer and use the mplayer.hq 2011-ALL-tar.bz2 codec package
and VLC2 for dvd movies

VMware workstation release 10 doesn't install
well 13.1 is NEW!!!
talk to the people over at VMWare , that is THEIR problem and not Novell's

any new major number release is going to have problems
that is why i am waiting for 13.2 to come out and before support for the to be released 12.4 is EOL -- install 13.2
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What happens on this one click install?
Old 12-16-2013, 07:13 PM   #4
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I have staid away from the "one click" like the plague

and prefer the packman repo
Old 01-02-2014, 08:44 PM   #5
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Release 13 heading for file 13

I agree. I started in unix, went over to SCO xenix, now using suse since ver.7 or 8. Other than their ver.11 - which was a total write-off - 13.1 is by far the worst. E.g. it arbitrarily resets the permissions of all files sent to removable media to root thereby defeating the purpose of "removable" - and portable. Further, it prevents even the su from resetting them to user group. So for the time being, 13.1 can't even be considered a decent beta.
Old 04-13-2014, 02:02 AM   #6
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damn... I was just thnking of switching to OpenSuse!

I guess Slackware really is the way to go... OpenSuse seemed pretty complicated too. My main reason to wanting to switch was because of AMD Radeon Support and good youtube reviews on how "Stable" it is and how "well it works".
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Hi there
I find the problem of granting immediate access when a USB device is inserted rather a backward step -- OK it now makes it more Windows than Windows - but restricting the willy nilly attachment of USB devices should be a 100% priority for any sort of security -- at least prompt for ROOT password when a USB device is inserted.#

(This however doesn't seem an OPENSUSE problem --seems to happen on most of the latest distros too-- IMO a BACKWARD step as Linux is meant to have much better security than Windows).

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Nothing Like a nice KISS simply the best restricted does not mean the user cant go get it strange world.


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