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Old 06-20-2008, 03:40 AM   #1
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Newly installed openSUSE 11 is completely unusable?

I was hot to try out openSUSE 11 today so I downloaded the GNOME x64 LiveCD. Booted up the CD and poked around a little and then decided to install it. The installation finished without incident and I booted the system from the hard disk. I logged in and was presented with my beautiful, openSUSE installation. A nice little welcome frame popped up highlighting some of openSUSE's features. "Looks very polished," I thought. Looks can be deceiving.

I clicked "Close" on the welcome frame. Nothing happened. I clicked on it again. Nothing happened. "Guess they haven't quite perfected the welcome window yet," I thought. "I guess this is a good opportunity to check out the process monitor and kill it." I clicked on the GNOME menu. No menu. In fact, no response from anything I did. Couldn't even kill X and use the terminal. The only thing I could do was move the mouse.

"Guess I shouldn't have clicked that close button without more thoroughly evaluating the potential consequences," I said to myself. "I guess I'll try *shudder* resetting it." One reset and two minutes later I had logged in again. The welcome window presented itself again, and this time another box also appeared, asking me if I'd like to make sure my software was up-to-date. I told it yes, choosing not to reveal my hardware profile or optional information in the process. It informed me that I should wait while it contacted the server, and that it may take several minutes. I timidly moved my mouse over to the close button on the welcome window, wary of what I was getting myself into, but after clicking the temperamental button, the window closed!

"Phew!" I exclaimed. "Looks like it was just a fluke." Looks can be deceiving. I waited about half an hour for the software manager to finish contacting its server. "They weren't kidding when they said this would take a while," I told myself. "Guess I will explore what a fresh installation of openSUSE 11 has to offer while I wait." I clicked on the GNOME menu. No menu. "Why am I getting a strange sense of déjà vu?" I asked myself, somewhat rhetorically. I tried aborting the software update. No response. I was once again powerless to do anything at all except move the mouse.

Shuddering once again, I bent over and hit the reset button. "Third time's the charm," I assured myself. A moment later I logged in again and waited for the desktop to load. "This time I'll go straight for the GNOME menu and kill anything that tries to pop up and ask me questions!" I reasoned. The lovely, green openSUSE wallpaper appeared. "Here goes!" I thought, as I waited for the desktop icons and taskbar to appear. And waited. And waited. And waited. "Blast!" I remarked. "The thing saw right through my plan." Once again, openSUSE had outwitted me and left me with nothing to do but move my mouse.

I'll admit I'm no Linux guru, but I've installed dozens of distros (including earlier versions of openSUSE) on this computer without encountering a problem like this. It also happened when I tried out openSUSE 11's RC1, but I just figured it was a bug that would get ironed out and went on to take Hardy Heron for a (much more successful) test drive. Am I the only one having this issue? More importantly, is there anything to be done to fix it?
Old 06-20-2008, 08:15 AM   #2
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Well I never use the Gnome version , but just install the KDe4 version every thing is working fine.
SO my first guess you,re problem is that there is some thing wrong with the CD or DVD .
It is not the first time that downloading and checksum are ok that the installation is not a success
When the first cold boot is ok then I feel happy
Just download Gnome too it works nearly perfect

all the best

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Old 06-20-2008, 10:58 AM   #3
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I'm having similar problems. Only it takes a while for the system to slow down to a crawl. I checked "top" and found that Xorg was using a lot of CPU. Sound starts to stutter, videos stop, and the program windows minimize and maximize VERY SLOWLY. I've killed the Xorg server and logged back in but the system is still slow. The only way I can reset it is to reboot the machine. I've been reading possible causes of the newest kernel to a memory leak. I have no clue. Hoping to find an answer on this site somewhere. I don't even know where to look for an error log for this problem.
Old 06-20-2008, 11:16 AM   #4
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Dell Optiplex GX260
512mg RAM
Pentium 4 @ 2.00GHz

I also installed openSUSE 11 and had immediate problems with GRUB. I installed OS 11 Gnome first. Grub is my first test, if Grub doesn't work, who wants that pain? Sure enough Grub would only boot to the new OS 11 and NLD 9 which is on the first primary partition of my first disk. (I had installed openSUSE 11 on the 4th Primary Partition of my 2nd disk) Grub's menu showed my other 2 primary partition OS's on the first disk but would just hang after selection.

Logged in as root and attempted to change the boot configuration, but every attempt to save the changes failed.

This hosed my Grub and as a temporary solution I installed Ubuntu 8.04 over the openSUSE 11 and got my working Grub back.

OpenSUSE is my main flame, but right now I'm stickin with openSUSE 10.3.

Had the same kind of Grub problem a year ago with PCLinuxOS and just can't understand how a problem like that makes it to an ISO.
Old 06-20-2008, 12:22 PM   #5
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I don't know about anyone else but the ISO I downloaded yesterday was totally busted, about 600MB short too. I re-downloaded today and installation was fine.

Old 06-20-2008, 04:41 PM   #6
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Well I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems. (Not that I want others to have problems, but misery loves company.) I downloaded the ISO by torrent, so it obviously should have been verified automatically, but just to be sure I checked it against the MD5 hash and the ISO is perfect. I'm pretty shocked that problems such as these are presenting in a final release as well. I was really looking forward to 11.0.

Fortunately I'm not having GRUB problems so I still have no problem booting into Windoze. I tried booting into openSUSE again today, and actually managed to click on the menu and look around for a minute, but then I went to adjust the screen resolution. After successfully testing the new resolution and telling it to save it, again I was stuck, with nothing but a black screen and an immovable mouse. It seems like all you have to do is breathe on it wrong and 11.0 will lock up.
Old 06-23-2008, 07:57 PM   #7
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I tried out the KDE (x64) version and it appears to be unaffected by whatever problems are plaguing the GNOME version, at least for me. Guess GNOME users are out of luck for the moment if they run into this problem.
Old 06-23-2008, 08:02 PM   #8
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I had an issue with the KDE4 version that eth0 wasn't coming up by itself - worked fine with static IP but not DNS. Managed to fix that - I don't exactly remember how.

That may explain the update issue
Old 06-23-2008, 11:37 PM   #9
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It seems like everything worked out of the box with KDE4 for me - I'm actually pretty pleasantly surprised. I never really had the chance to see if networking was working or not in the GNOME version, though I think I remember it working on the LiveCD.
Old 06-25-2008, 03:32 PM   #10
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As a newbie I downloaded SUSE 11 64 bit and KDE4 DVD. I installed on my PC with no problem. Grub lets me boot into windoze if I want.
I then installed it onto my wifes PC and she just loves it.
My black and white network printer was the only thing that took any time and that was because I am a bit stupid. Sound and video work fine on both PCs.
I only have windoze on one of the machines now and that is only because there are no Linux drivers for my colour laser printer.
Old 06-27-2008, 08:08 AM   #11
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i installed suse 11.0 64 (dvd) KDE4. every thing was working ok. after update i could not open any kde application (my computer, setup,etc). i googled and find some people have the same problems. the work around is to open from terminal with root privileges. it is because of KDE4. so i just changed my session to KDE3 and every thing back to normal. will have to wait until kde fixes some bugs. but in rest no problems and very happy.
Old 07-02-2008, 12:27 PM   #12
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I am finding v11 a bit tiresome. I couldn't wait to get it installed and now i see small niggly issues just queuing up to p%$$ me off.

Perhaps KDE4 was a mistake but i have issues with the core Os too. mainly i cannot connect to the wireless network that 10.3 did with ease.

Has anyone else had trouble launching things from the Konsole as root? how exactly am i supposed to update conf files without being able to launch kwrite as SU?

hmm, get well soon Suse 11, or else.
Old 07-09-2008, 08:41 AM   #13
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Angry You're not alone.

Hmm... sounds very familiar.

It did the exact same thing to me, except I was trying to use KDE. Did not matter whether I tried to launch a KDE3 or KDE4 session... So it's not just Gnome. I never tried Gnome. I got mad and shut the machine off and went to bed.

The last 2 or 3 upgrades of openSuse have seemed to go like this for me... although I eventually get things ironed out. I wish it would just update and work.
Old 07-09-2008, 12:21 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by ianio View Post
Has anyone else had trouble launching things from the Konsole as root? how exactly am i supposed to update conf files without being able to launch kwrite as SU?
Have you tried either nano or pico (available on the openSUSE 11.0 DVD)? These are a bit less complex than using vi to edit configuration files, although it is recommended to use only vi for certain files, as other text editors may add breaks and spaces that may adversely affect the configuration files. I seem to remember reading something about this related to the /etc/sudoers file.

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Old 07-10-2008, 12:40 AM   #15
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They could just stay with 10.3 IMO. The best OS I've ever used.


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