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anupamsr 10-29-2004 11:51 AM

KDE 3.3 and SUSE 9.1
 
Hi all!

I have been trying to install a succesful KDE 3.3 install on my SUSE 9.1. I downloaded all the 99 rpms some days ago, solved uncountable dependencies, and finaly installed. And it was ok except that my xscreensaver stoped working and some other glitches. Later, more problems crept in. So, I reistalled SUSE and thought of using only YaST2 to upgrade to KDE 3.3

Today I was surfing on suse site and saw that it is available on ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/sup...pdate_for_9.1/

The question is simple. How to upgrade to KDE 3.3 using YaST2?

pilotgi 10-29-2004 04:31 PM

I think that YOU only does minor updates to the original KDE that came with 9.1. Not updates from 3.2 to 3.3. You were on the right track the first time, only there's no need to download all 99 files. You only need to update the files that are already installed. Sometimes these updates will require some additional libs but usually not very many. That's probably why you had so many dependency issues, because you installed _every_ KDE rpm instead just updating the ones you already had.

I always update kde from the command line because it just takes a simple command:

rpm -Fvh kde*.rpm

The F option will only install the rpm if a previous version exists. You can do them in groups like:

rpm -Fvh kdebase*.rpm or rpm -Fvh kdegraphics*.rpm

Don't forget the files that don't start with kde, like arts and tag-lib.

anupamsr 10-30-2004 02:33 AM

Ahhh...... so I will have to do all over it again :)

There is one dependency thats not getting solved: kdelibs3_doc is needed by kdelibs3-3.3.1-3
I tried to search on internet, and found that installing kdelibs-docs given on my cd will solve the problem. but it is not, rather it now gives this problem:
kdelibs3_doc is needed by kdelibs3-3.3.1-3
kdelibs3 = 3.2.1 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.2.1-4

what to do? :(

dth1 10-30-2004 06:23 AM

If you have a adsl internet connection a good way to do this (and future kde updates) is to add a suse kde mirror site to your install settings.

To do this start yast and click on 'change source of installation / then click on add / select ftp
and put the settings:-

for server name - mirrorservice.org

for directory on server -

/sites/ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/supplementary/KDE/update_for_9.1/yast-source

Then move this option up the listing (above the DVD/CD source)

Again in yast click on system update and it should pick up and install all the updates needed for kde 3.3.1 and your other applications.

Came across this idea in another forum and it works a treat. Before I used to download and install each of the updates one by one (used to take me ages).

anupamsr 10-30-2004 06:35 AM

hey u know i tried this with directly adding ftp.suse.com myself by intution and it didnt work then!!!!:scratch: THANKS for giving this server info!

finaly.....................:)

dth1 10-30-2004 08:16 AM

Please post back and let us know how you got on.

anupamsr 10-30-2004 08:58 AM

Since I had downloaded all the packages of KDE 3.3 many days ago, I went for
Code:

yast2 --install arts*
yast2 --install kdelibs*
yast2 --install *.rpm

After that I rebooted and my KDE 3.3 is in working condition, xscreensaver is also working. But I went for system update, and now it is downloading around 135MB and will also require CDs. I observe that it is downloading updated packages since my packages were quite old. It will require CDs probably to resolve dependencies.

PS: please tell me more about yast2 --install. It didn't ask for any dependency. I used it because I was unable to go create a yast source out of my local hard disk. (ref: http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/02/yast_instsrc.html)

anupamsr 10-30-2004 09:36 AM

my guess was right. CDs were required to resolve dependencies. I have now KDE 3.3 !!!!!!!!!

I agree that installing all kde apps was not required. but i was too bored to see what I need ;)

dth1 10-30-2004 10:22 AM

well done. you should actually have kde 3.3.1 (the updated version of 3.3).

by updating this way yast takes care of all the dependencies and related files that are needed.

pilotgi 10-30-2004 07:07 PM

Way to go. Sounds like you did a lot of work on your own. Always nice to see someone who takes initiative.

Quote:

Originally posted by anupamsr


There is one dependency thats not getting solved: kdelibs3_doc is needed by kdelibs3-3.3.1-3
I tried to search on internet, and found that installing kdelibs-docs given on my cd will solve the problem. but it is not, rather it now gives this problem:
kdelibs3_doc is needed by kdelibs3-3.3.1-3
kdelibs3 = 3.2.1 is needed by (installed) kdelibs3-devel-3.2.1-4


I remember the dependency for kdelibs3_doc when I upgraded. It was never needed before so the KDE team must have done something different. The last line above is technically correct but irrelevant since you are updating both kdelibs3 and kdelibs3-devel. In other words, installing kdelibs3-3.3.1 by itself without kdelibs3-devel-3.3.1 is the reason you got the dependency issue with the 3.2.1 version. If you would have upgraded both libs and -devel rpms with the same command, there would have been no dependency warning.

And thanks for posting those yast2 commands as I was unaware of them.

MadSkillzMan 11-17-2004 03:54 PM

hey guys..ive installed KDE 3.3 via FTP before...but this time, ive followed all your directons, and YaST just closes out when i click "accept" ..this is after adding the KDE mirrors...ive tried many many different ones with the same error..wahts up with that?

Also, the command line command is for only if u downloaded all the .rpms correct? it doesnt like do it from a server?

anupamsr 11-17-2004 04:23 PM

Quote:

Also, the command line command is for only if u downloaded all the .rpms correct? it doesnt like do it from a server?
yes thats what i was talking about.

MadSkillzMan 11-17-2004 05:15 PM

ugh i do not wanna sit here and download all 99 packages...id rather use Gnome, but that never installs correctly, nor can u access it w.o tweaking everything

anupamsr 11-17-2004 06:27 PM

just a suggestion.... will help you downloading 99 packages:
1-install d4x (on suse pro cd)
2-install firefox
3-install flashgot extension
4-select all the packages, right click and select "Flashgot selection"

just an idea.... :)

MadSkillzMan 11-18-2004 12:13 AM

im really curious as to what these problems are caused by?

dont u guys get it where once ina wile XMMs doesnt open and rebooting fixes everything?


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