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Old 02-06-2006, 08:05 AM   #1
killy9999
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K3b - problem with recording


I have a problem with recording RW discs (both dvd and cd) using K3b. It gives me an error
Code:
:-( /dev/hdc: Unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
Critical Error: device is busy*
The issue is described in K3b FAQ:
Quote:
Q: Writing fails with the following cdrecord message over and over again: Error trying to open /dev/XXX exclusively...
A: You are using a patched cdrecord version which tries to open the device exclusively which fails because your are probably also using automounting.
The solutions are to disable automounting altogether (this is the recommended solution as automounting can cause other more serious problems with CD/DVD writing) or to install a non-patched cdrecord version.
Where can I get non-patched version of cdrrecord for SuSE? Or how to disable automount?

*) my translation from Polish :]
 
Old 02-06-2006, 08:32 PM   #2
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install webmin, all the modules you can. then you can easily pick and choose which programs/modules get loaded on bootup. webmin is an admins dream.

also make sure you have the correct k3b version for your os, and compile it (the source which is usually the ones with the gz or bz2 extensions).. which is not hard.. it's only 3 commands and will show you better where probs are and make the program work optimum for your sys.

good luck, lettuce know.

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Old 02-07-2006, 03:50 AM   #3
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I have YaST and vi so I think webmin won't be necessary , I just need to know which module shouldn't be loaded. I also don't want to compile k3b sources. It's not like I don't know how to do it or sth, it's just that I switched to SuSE so I finally won't need to do this. Especially if the problem's not in the program itself but probably in other packages.

And one more very important thing. I was mistaken, I CAN record on CD-RW discs! When I insert cd-rw for recording k3b blanks the cd and then records on it. So the issue is only with DVD+RW recording.

EDIT: K3b also behaves odly while recording. About every 10-15 second it takes 100% of processor cycles and recording seems very unstable (speed varying from 1x to 8x)

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Old 02-07-2006, 05:21 AM   #4
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you should be able to get the non patched version from either suse or cdrecords website.

i know you have yast, but webmin has things that yast does not.

automount should be there in yast somewhere (i don't have suse now so i cannot comment further.

in webmin i know you would be able to set up when ALL programs boot (ie at what level).

also compiling is *almost* always better-- for perfection (hence soo many people like gentoo).

on the problems you are still having, maybe adjusting the settings for speed to auto may help, or 1.

did you run k3bsetup? and the config program in k3b?

also make sure you 'format' each disk-- for what kind of sessions they will used for (normaly).

ie. if you are going to put & take stuff off the read/writes, then format it for that (ie 'multisession)-- or else you won't be able to use it for adding/deleting.

good luck again, keep us informed

Last edited by halvy; 02-07-2006 at 05:25 AM.
 
Old 02-08-2006, 12:46 PM   #5
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Ok, here's some more update.
1. I installed webmin, but I can't make it work. It says that I can login as root to https://XXXX:10000/ (XXXX-my hostname), but that doesn't work. I don't wanna go into that now. I really think that YaST and vi will be enough (I switched from Debian recently, so I'm used to manually editing my config files).
2. Compiling on one hand is better, for example if you want maximum performance. On the other hand it's a real hell when it comes to update, but let's bit go into that either :]

Now let's go back to my problems. Yes, I run k3bsetup, so everything is set up properly. Also dvd's are formated as they should. Now I run a few tests:
1. I bought a new dvd+rw and recorded it. K3b formated the dvd, and started recording. On the end of burning process it said that burning failed, but it didn't - dvd was recorded ok.
2. I quick-formated dvd+rw using nero (windows version). The dvd won't burn - gives me:
Code:
:-( /dev/hdc: Unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
Critical Error: device is busy*
3. I tried to force k3b to format dvd+rw. Gives me unknown error.

Once I also got an error from growisofs.

I think the cdrecord packege is ok, since cd's are burning fine. The problem seems to be the dvd+rw-tools package. Come on guys, am I the only person having problems with recording dvd+rw on suse?
 
Old 02-08-2006, 01:25 PM   #6
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yes, over here! i'v had problems in the past like this!!

oh, sorry, it's me again

i thought i was trying to help you-- even tho i have not been able to yet.

alot of questions go unanswered here, i think, because they are actaully quite common.. therefore they are answered already either here or somewhere on the net-- many MANY times over.

i *sometimes* try to help with questions like yours, because i feel if you are new, you are either not aware of this fact that much of these questions of yours 'are answered' already on the net, or you are just too upset-- so i try and help

i'm sorry my efforts have not made you progress.. but notheless i believe i have given you information-- that if taken seriously, will at least lead you on the road to the infomration that will eventually settle your problems.

good luck.
 
Old 02-08-2006, 04:34 PM   #7
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Well, I know halvy, and I REALLY apreciate your support. It just seems that no one has run into same problem as mine, which I must say is very strange for me, since I'm using standard SuSE packages, as most of the people using SuSE do. I'm also not a linux newbie, and it's not my habit to go straight to the forums with all my problems immediately. I usually do google for the solution, it's way faster than waiting for someone to respond. However I haven't found any solution to this problem (although I've found a few suggestions). Well, I'll do my best to solve that problem and when (if...) I do, I'll let you all know :]

Oh, and as for automounting - I have forgotten that in my previous post. In fact, suse has automunt daemon, which I turned off. However drives still automount. It seems that KDE deamon is doing the automounting stuff, however disabling it doesn't solve the problem (although it does stop the automounting).

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Old 02-08-2006, 08:08 PM   #8
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sorry to sound so brash above.

i myself havn't had the 'exact' same problem, but similiar with k3b.

actually it's possible very few people are having this problem.. or soo many are, that people just 'accept' it as normal, until the fix comes from suse.

suse's merger with novell was both a blessing and a curse.

if you member with 9.x they actually left sound broken or disengaged somehow! they had to immediately come out with a separate 9.x (same #'s) but call it: 'sound' version or some other odd name!

well when i have problems i actually do pretty much what you do.

i rarely use forums also because i figure if it is not 'out there' already, or in the docs, then it is an issue that just has not been fixed (or noone is telling it's fixed).

so the hacking begins..

what i need to get better at is starting threads when i do fix or find something that is a rarity.. so others can share in the knowledge.

anyway i know you'll have this solved soon... it is linux

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