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Old 02-22-2005, 03:08 PM   #1
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installation?!


i have 2 hard drives. F: has 2 ext2 partitions. C: has windows on it.i want to install suse 9.2 onto F: .

However when i get to the partitioning section of the installation i get this.
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+delete partition /dev/hdb5
+create swap partition 1011mb on /dev/hdb7
+create root partition 20.3g
+set mount point of /dev/hda1 to /windows/c
+set mount point of /dev/hdb5 to /windows/d



there are too many things about this i dont understand. I understand that it wants delete the ext2 partitions and (convert it to another partition type?????).

but im really confused about the:

+set mount point of /dev/hda1 to /windows/c
+set mount point of /dev/hdb5 to /windows/d

does this mean it will get rid of windows? or touch the windows drive at all?

help would be OH so much appreciated. a simple desperate to get away from windows!

oh and is it true that if windows is larger than 11gb the grub bootloader wont boot xp?

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Old 02-22-2005, 04:28 PM   #2
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For me, it would be easiest to remove the master drive and make the slave the master (temporarily). Then boot up in the Suse install and delete all the partitions on the drive since you indicated this drive is for Linux. Then you can put the drives back into the computer the way they were. It'll make the install easier.

However, not doing the above suggestion, do the following. I'd remove all the windows mount points when you get into the partitioning configuration. And mark all the partitions on the second drive (hdb) to be deleted.

Everything you want to create will be on hdb, not hda. The install should say that it's going to create hdb1 for the swap and hdb2 for root.

So, it should delete two partitions and create two partitions only on /dev/hdb.

[oh and is it true that if windows is larger than 11gb the grub bootloader wont boot xp?] Not in your configuration. Windows resides at the beginning of the drive on your system. This issue comes about because of an INT 13 limitation of Windows. The Windows System Partition must reside within the first 1024 cylinders of the hard drive. Note: This is also an issue with older versions of LILO.
 
Old 02-23-2005, 03:45 AM   #3
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This sounds strange indeed. Are you sure you didn't mix up hda and hdb? But try the following: go into the manual partitioning dialog and delete the two ext2 partitions on hdb (I guess this is what Windows calls F. After that, reboot and see what Yast offers now. I remember that Yast gets a little confused with partitions already present. I think this is because it cannot delete and re-create partitions with the same name in one turn. It is better to offer it empty space

I wouldn't recommend drive swaping, as this has caused serious trouble in another thread that is running right now in this forum.
 
Old 02-23-2005, 10:43 AM   #4
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So get rid of ext2 partitons (make them unallocated?)go back into suse install and (hopefully) the recommended configuration will be different.

Oh and the reason i said i was confused about the last 2 lines is that i dont know what a mount point is, so clearing that up for me would be much appreciated.

Thx for the help so far guys
 
Old 02-23-2005, 01:18 PM   #5
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okay deleted partitions. i now get this on install. still dont understand it.


http://img38.exs.cx/img38/2557/show4wi.jpg

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Old 02-24-2005, 03:00 AM   #6
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Sure you deleted all available partition on your second disk? Maybe it makes sense to use some kind of external partitioner to make sure that hdb is totally empty.
 
Old 02-24-2005, 10:42 AM   #7
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i can't delete ALL partitions on F: as one of them contains data i need. but i have resized that partition and have about 20gb unalocated.

I was reading up on an explanation of mounting and i looked again at the recomended partititioning in suse. to me it seems okay.

i think the first 2 lines are making the unalocated space of F: root and swap and the last 2 lines are for mounting the NTFS partitions in linux so i (think) i can read them. But i dont think it will actually write to c:

well thats what i think (but im probally wrong) and im not going to install linux until IM SURE ill still be able to boot windows and access C: data.
 
Old 02-24-2005, 12:34 PM   #8
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Just for clarification: the use of Windows drive letters can be very confusing. What you call F: may be a whole (physical) drive or just a small partition among many others. As you spreak from 'partitions on F:', I must assume that you mean a whole drive.

The Linux-way of naming is easier to understand. hda is the drive on the first primary controller, hdb the drive on the first secondary controller. The partitions are numbered 1-4 for the primary partitions and 5-xy for logical partitions.

It would be very informative if you could find out more about your drive/partition structure. The Linux 'fdisk -l' command would be very helpful. You could use this if you boot a rescue or live system from CD.
 
Old 02-24-2005, 01:02 PM   #9
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well i managed to boot with my old knoppix live cd.only problem is it didnt detect my mouse, but i still managed to get there.

http://img12.exs.cx/img12/4110/showg8qv.jpg

i couldnt copy paste (no mouse) and didnt want to type it all out, so i took a pic. hope you can read it.
 
Old 02-25-2005, 02:33 AM   #10
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OK, everything is clear now! Thanks for the info.

The suggestion you get from Yast makes perfect sense. On your second drive is an extended partition (hdb2), that contains one logical partition (hdb5), that is called F: by your Windows system. The rest of this disk is unpartitioned free space, where the Yast installer wants to create one swap- and one rootpartition, both as primary partitions hdb1 and hdb3 (since hdb2 is already given away). Additionally, Yast detects that you have Windows partitions on your first disk (hda1) and on your second disk (hdb5) and offers you to mount (that means make them available for access) them on /windows/c and d resp.

Everything alright now ?
 
  


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