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sirius57 01-21-2013 06:56 PM

how to properly install ati driver for rage 128 ultra tf display adapter
I have a dell optiplex desktop running opensuse 12.1 with an ati rage 128 ultra tf video card. The opensuse install used the stock driver, however, I feel that I can get better performance with a better ati driver. I have the ati driver repository added in yast, but I am unfamiliar with the different options for installing an ati driver in opensuse. I am not interested in upgrading the video card, just the driver.

My current configuration looks like this:
ati rage 128 ultra tf
2d: ati
3d: unknown classic (7.11)

John VV 01-21-2013 07:47 PM

I might be wrong but i thought that the old "rage" cards were unsupported by xorg
and there for not supported in opensuse 12.1

what is listed in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
as the driver used

in the section starting with
Section "Device"

My nvidia card uses this

Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
BoardName "GeForce GTS 240"

Opensuse uses the opensource ATI driver
so to change that to the proprietary AMD/ATI driver

See the Opensuse wiki
-- older legacy

sirius57 01-22-2013 10:03 AM

I read the links and believe I would use the fglrx legacy driver, but I have not confirmed what chipset the card uses. It is stated to work with the radeon chipset hd2xxx to hd4xxx. I also read references to the r128 driver for that card. Is there a way to cross-reference the card and chipset?

adamk75 01-22-2013 01:12 PM

The only driver that will work with the rage 128 GPUs is the r128 open source driver (well, there is also the vesa driver, but you don't want to use that one). Check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see if that's what you are using.


sirius57 01-27-2013 04:56 PM

From what I have read, opensuse 12.1 does not have xorg.conf. Here is my 50-device.conf file:
# Having multiple "Device" sections is known to be problematic. Make
# sure you don't have in use another one laying around e.g. in another
# xorg.conf.d file or even a generic xorg.conf file. More details can
# be found in
#Section "Device"
# Identifier "Default Device"
# #Driver "radeon"
# ## Required magic for radeon/radeonhd drivers; output name
# ## (here: "DVI-0") can be figured out via 'xrandr -q'
# #Option "monitor-DVI-0" "Default Monitor"

a yast search produced: xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd
description: radeonhd driver fro amd gpg(ati) r5xx/r6xx chipsets
this is what I am using now.

I have an unchecked listing in yast for fglrx-xpic-suse121
description: driver for the amd radeon 9500 and later with opengl support.
This is not ok to use?

My display is ok, I just want to make it more snappy. 3d games like openarena have slow frame rates. Am I using the best driver for my card already?

TobiSGD 01-27-2013 05:42 PM

Your card is a card that is older than the Radeon cards, no ATI/AMD driver that would work with openSuse 12.1 will support your card.
You have to use the open source driver and it should be used by default for that card.

adamk75 01-27-2013 06:14 PM

And, to be fair, that GPU is going to be slow with nearly any 3D game.

sirius57 01-28-2013 10:07 AM

Would the old nvidia tnt card be more flexible? I know the nvidia 1-click install supports legacy cards. The box is old so my options are limited. Would performance be about equal between the two cards?

TobiSGD 01-28-2013 10:14 AM

The TNT card is about the same age and will also not be supported by proprietary drivers. You would have to use the open source drivers for that card also.
Performance shouldn't be that different with these old cards.

John VV 01-28-2013 10:47 AM

as to OLD cards

over the last 3 to 4 years i had "fun" with an antique Gforce 2 MX 400 card

the current xorg ( and nvidia) DO NOT support it


The opensource nouveau dose

the same goes for the old rage cards and the opensource ati driver ,mostly

but not everything will be supported on a 10+ year old card

for OLD boxes i would recommend installing CentOS 6.3

and then ( if at all possible ) buy a new computer
one with "modern" hardware

" modern" = newer than 3 years old

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