RedShirt, attempting to install the 32 bit player is where the dependency pproblems arise that I spoke of earlier.

What ends up happening is it wants or needs so many 32 bit libraries and applications that conflicts start arising with other applications and libraries, which conflict with other.........it turns into a horror show.

I haven't seen anyone anywhere post a solution. Many people say things work, but my suspicions are they simply have not tried to play the types of files we speak about here.

BTW this is not just an mplayer issue, it is any multimedia player. Which of course would point to codecs not working peoperly.

Xine and other also will not play these files in the 64 bit OS

Redshirt, appreciate your patience and assistance in trying to pinpoint the problem..

Well, if you have dependency issues, there is only one of 2 ways to go. You can either fight it all, one at a time, which could take hours. Or you can do it all in bulk, and try using a package manager like SMART that claims to have the ability to find and sort all the dependency issues for you. I don't know how well it works, but supposedly, it will not only find the starting point and work its way all the way back, but the download and upgrade/uninstall-reinstall until all of them are sorted out, automatically.
So maybe the choice is that.

I have found very few times though where merely uninstalling ALL media and installing all of them from a single source has a truly nasty dependancy issue, only when you start to mix them from various sources do all the issues start to arise, in my expereince. But it does mean uninstalling all of them, everythin related to media, the libraries, software, codecs, uis, front ends, and then starting fresh using all from Guru or all from Packman. Don't use any of the base packages from SuSE.

I have done it in the past only to end up with nonfunctional applications.

Hours of satifying dependencies, until nothing complained, only to end up with a broken system.

Having same issue. I have screenshot of my problem HERE. I can hear audio, I can play mp3, I can even watch DVD's. When it comes to these mms streams though, my player does what you see in the screenshot. RedShirt's been helping me out trying to figure out what's going on and I followed his instructions but I'm back to where I was before I reinstalled suse10 4 times. I just don't want to switch to 32bit of suse... Maybe someone has seen these before and can help us?

Trying to install 32bit of Mplayer in YAST will give a red dependency error for some library that is no available... Can someone post a howto from scratch, from first step after suse install? Not the jem report please. I have followed that thing 100 times so far and still I get to this point. I can get the dvd, I can get mp3, i can get flash and acrobat. I can even get java... I just want the movie part to work such as in my screenshot. Please. Thanks.

P.S. RedShirt you have a lot of patience and I thank you for all the help so far.

That's what I had to do. And then I had to change back to 64bit mplayer to test bruce's files and to find some that don't work. I say in my first post that changing to the 32bit install for mplayer and all it's dependencies solved the problem. I didn't know the little fact about SuSE being a hybrid 64/32 bit OS. I wonder why the other distros aren't. I would think that we would need to be hybrid for a while until 64bit software is more prevalent. It's got to suck not being able to install 32bit software in Ubuntu. By the way, has anyone tested the files posted. Is this just me, bruce and fireferum?



This isn't really a howto, I'm just telling you what I had to do. The only difference between my situation and yours, that I notice, is that you also have the mplayerplugin installed. AFAIK, mplayer directly depends on the following RPMs: lame, mad, libdv, and w32codecs. As long as all of these are 32 bit you should be good to go. These are the only RPMs I needed to get mplayer working fine. Now the mplayerplugin would also need to be 32bit. You will need to uninstall all those packages and then install the 32bit versions.

In fact, I would just install the 32bit version of mplayerplugin first, then see if that solves the problem before embarking on the other packages. I had some 64bit plugins that Firefox would not recognize. But on the other had it seems like the plugin is able to open in the Firefox window, so......
Still, it wouldn't hurt to just try on the mplayerplugin first before moving onto the others.

If you get a dependency error saying that ___________ is needed, then make sure you select 'Provides' from the search field when searching for ____________. For me, yast would never tell me which package is required, it would just say that a certain file is needed.




On a side note is the ffmpeg package in yast the same as the ffmpeg codecs package that can be used in Windows? Also, is there an equivalent of G-Spot for linux?

That sucks. At one point, I just said screw it and uninstalled programs that I planned on using just to limit the amount of dependencies.

Incorrect statement: it would be difficult to get pure 64-bit OS (desktop). Why? because then you will loose 32-bit compatibility. This means that on pure 64-bit OS you will not be able to install 32-bit apps. So Ubunto, FC, SuSE are hybrids. I think that Debian has pure 64-bit version. Gentoo can do all: 32-bit, hybrid and pure 64-bit.

When do you know that's your system is hybrid? For once if you can install ANY 32-bit app, then you have hybrid. Second, check if you have 32-bit libs, for example SuSE has:
/usr/lib for 32-bit libs
and
/usr/lib64 for 64-bit libs


The major problem here is not that one can't do this (watch whatever) but that one never bothered to read.

One asked numerous times for something to read. One was never pointed at such documents to read.

One would be thrilled to death to read them.

I tried the 32bit of mplayerplug-in otherwise I would have had no plugins in firefox. The 64bit version of the mplayerplug-in doesn't place any plugins usable by firefox. This is how I got to this spot. I remember trying to install 32bit mplayer but getting issues so I will go back and try to install those rpm's you told me and tell you how that goes.

Bruce, Bruce, Bruce
Don't feed the trolls man

FileFerum, I was too late to catch you before your last post but something happened to me that is probably related to 32bit mplayer. Basically, mp3 files stopped playing in Amarok, but they play in Mplayer. I'm assuming that Amarok could not use the 32bit install of mad. (Now that I think back to it, running amarok from the command line would have probably shed more light into this current issue.)

I attempted converting Amarok and all it's dependent packages to 32bit but it was much tougher than mplayer. Amarok is much more integrated into KDE. I went as deep into the dependency as the KDE multimedia packages and the dependency issues were resolved.
But then Amarok was unable to use arts as it's engine. Even though there is a 'arts-32bit' package installed, which I would assume handles the 32bit applications that would use arts. I thought about reinstalling arts as 32bit but there are too many packages that are dependent on the 64bit version of it. So, if you use amarok or have it installed, could you please check if it plays mp3s after you've reinstalled mplayer and all it's dependent pacakages.

I'm really considering ditching 64bit SuSE.

Something just dawned on me. What if we were to convert the non-playable files to a format/codec that is working with 64bit mplayer? Would that help?

You probably could conver them to something with 64bit support. Won't help a lot for streaming, but for saved videos it sure would.

My amaroK will play mp3 files just fine. I managed to mess it up once by installing a 32 bit version of something it needed but as long as i just stick to the basic mplayer 64bit, w32codec-all 32bit, mplayerplug-in 32bit, kaffeine-mozilla 32bit then everything is ok with amaroK. Except that the helix/realplayer engine is made default and that doesn't allow you to forward through your mp3 files. You can't go to say 30s into the track unless you switch to xine engine.


I'm about to switch to 32bit also. As much as I wanted to use the full capabilities of my 64bit processor it looks like we have no better option.

what architechture is your install of mad?

Ok so I went and switched the mad lib from 64 to 32bit. Then I needed to install libdv 32bit, then lame 32bit, then mjpegtools 32bit, gstreamer-plugin-default 32bit, gstreamer-plugins-extra 32bit gnome-media 32bit. The last two then needed libmusicbrainz 32bit, libtunepimp 32bit, k3b 32bit. Unfortunately k3b 32 bit needs more stuff so I just uninstalled k3b completely. Good news: Streaming video and audio work now.