I am about ready to give up on Linux. I started out with Mandrake, Redhat and Knoppix, and then finally bought a copy w/manuals of Suse 9.0 Pro. It was really interesting to me and I loved the stabilit. However, things just kept going wrong. There always seemed to be something that didn't work. Either it was a printer, a scanner, a mouse, sound, video, graphics, or numerous programs that just wouldn't work without a lot of help from the generous people on this forum. Even then, there were still things that even they couldn't resolve. Now I am using Suse 10.1. OMFGIH!!!! What the "H", "E", double hockey sticks did Suse do to its update system that I always thought was it's strongest offering. Now it is messing up what programs I have working. For instance, Opera now has officially stopped working because the update program tried, and failed to update it, saying:
Media Change is Required
Please insert "http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/update/10.1' on media 1.

HUH? insert a web-page into my media?

Anyhow, it doesn't work anymore!

Thanks to, Ninecomputers,(someone who was kind enough to help me with update problems recently.) I now have Ksmart. He (I think he is a "He") helped me to get it going , then BAM!...It suddenly stopped, giving me this message when I would try to bring it up.

warringlion@linux-whtf:~> su
Password:
linux-whtf:/home/warringlion # smart update
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/smart", line 27, in ?
from smart import init, initDistro, initPlugins, initPsyco
ImportError: No module named smart
linux-whtf:/home/warringlion #


Sure, I've had many problems with Suse/Linux in the past, but this recent problem has me thinking Novel has really screwed the pooch this time. Even if they come out with a fix for it, I can't install the update for it. This is because when I use Yast update I get all sorts of messages about the program I'm trying to install not being on the fricking media!!!!

Let me finish by saying, I literally "HATE" Microsoft! I admire Bill Gates for making such a powerful empire, but I'd beat the boy to death with my bare hands for the complete hell he has caused and the great ideas and people he has destroyed over the years just to keep his death-grip he has on the industry. I assure you, that boy will be the death of more rights and opportunities than any of us can possibly imagine just yet. Linux seems to be the best weapon we have against the devil he has now become.

But, I'm having difficulties keeping the faith. All this time I have to spend fixing problem after problem is going to be the death of me. I feel so good using Linux, especially Suse, but it is like when you have an itch. I feels so good to scratch it. The problem is, I think I've just about scratched down to the bone now. Blood is everywhere and I feel like about about to slip and fall. Is there an ointment out there that will save me?

SuSE does have a few problems. I'm using 10.1 at the moment and am curently waiting on a tech support request from Novell because the Online Updater will not work at all.
It might be worth considering reinstalling from scratch and trying again.
Alternatively, there are plenty of other distros to try yet.

Don't give up!

Thanks. I'm glad I'm not alone in this. (Misery love company. ) I hope they get your problem solved soon though. I've been looking through the other forums, and we clearly are not alone. It looks like they really messed up this time.

Nah, not really. I thik Novell are trying really hard. They can't afford to screw up big time. I've heard a lot of praise for Enterprise 10, though in truth I've heard a lot of moans about 10.1.
10.1 is the free, bleeding edge version, you can expect problems. If they did this with Enterprise 10 then there would be major trouble for Novell.

Wow, what a pointless rant of your personal experience.

I run 10.1, also have a computer with 10.2 Alpha 1 along with other distro's like Fedora Core 5, FC4, and Kubuntu Drapper and rarely have a problem.

Why don't you just use YaST in 10.1 (after the updates of course)?

I have Suse 10.1 on both my laptop and desktop.
Yep, I have had to fight a bit with the YAST/RUG/XEN bastard update tool.
The "rug refresh" command does some good sometimes.
On my laptop I had to delete the first default update choice and the next one works fine so far.
On my desktop programs I had been trying to locate just "showed up".
Other than the updater things seem to be working well.

EDIT:And I almost forgot. Attempting to get updates as soon as they are available produces a failure. After a while the updates install.

Morbid,

Have you tried to reinstal Smart by hand? Just download the 5 RPM files off of guru's website and use RPM on the command line to reinstall it back?

The only option is to dump 10.1 and roll back to 10.0. I've tried to install 10.1 on 3 machines and gave up. It is too buggy. I'll rolled back to 10.0 and have a stable os. Skip it and wait for 10.2 IMHO.

The particular problem I had with YOU in 10.1 is fixed by doing what this page tells you to do.
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:ZEN-Updat...roblem_in_10.1

Other than this one problem I have found 10.1 to be a delight (thus far). Far superior to any of the 9.x releases. One thoroughly functional laptop, mplayer and libxine both installed first time and fixed the hideous nobbled-media player thing that SuSE does. Suspend works out of the box to, first time I've ever seen suspend work on a laptop.

How she behaves after the update remains to be seen...

And why people cannot just do a search for that rather then endless service requests is beyond me. Is it really that hard to use the SDB in opensuse,org?

http://www.novell.com/linux/prerelease.html

try out the prelease of SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 before you give up. That doesn't have any of the problems (think) and they are working on the packages manager in suse 10.2

As previously stated - use the SMART packages. They will fix a lot of stuff. I suggest doing it on a fresh install...

Sure, one can get it working. No doubt about that. Everything is possible. Heck, you can start with a blank disk and build your own Linux system (see Linux From Scratch). And that's a lot of fun too !

But the point is, why would you work to patch on your behalf things that are made by a company ?

Apply this principle to cars. You buy a car but you have to finish the job of the brake system that was not well done. That's a lot different from knowing right from the start that you're building a car by yourself as a project.

Agreed, software is just about the only field where it's possible to sell stuff that's not yet finished.

Speaking for myself, after runningfor 4 years my own home-built Linux systems (at home and at work) I've chosen in 2005 to try a real full-fledged Linux distro. I meant to buy one and see what it has to offer. So I did that, with SuSE 9.3. And like it or not, the 30-day support is also part of the distro. I paid $140 (CDN) with taxes and all, so when I had a problem I tried their support. In this case the problem was installation on a AMD X86_64. I give support 5 out of ten. And the 5 is for the replies I got, not for the actual pratical problem-solving content, because they ended up having no idea how to fix this. And probably the support staff at Novell cannot call on the German SuSE developers, or anyone knowledgeable about X86_64, MSI K8N Neo4 and APIC stuff. They seem, as many other support organizations, to only work with databases and to largely limit their work to simple searching.

So, the bottom line is, when you pay fro a distro, the provided support is indeed part of the package.

Speaking of "Pointless rantings", Eclipse, let's talk about your reply. Had you read my "rantings" you would realize how useless the gas that just leaked out of your bloated head was. It's called being frustrated. Ask your parents to define that one for you, just be ready to be presented with a picture of yourself. If you want to be pissy, go piss on yourself. At least the rest of them have the decency to try to help, not attack with childish criticism.

Ninecomputer....Thanks, but when I tried, it gave me that message I was telling you about indicating that it wasn't found on the media.

Hmmm....I'm beginning to like the idea of the Enterprise version. I just don't have the time any more to play around much with it's issues. I had not realized that the Enterprise version actually does have the bugs ironed out in it.

Ninecomputers has been helping me with Smart, but it suddenly stopped working right after we got everything set up properly. Just my luck I guess.

Thank you, everyone for your help. I think that is perhaps the greatest thing about Linux, it's users willing to help anyone with a problem, even if it is just a bit of perhaps uncalled for frustration. Thanks again.

Nonsense. I'm not talking about using yast. I'm saying goto guru's website, download the files into a single directory and then open a command prompt, become root and use the command line RPM command to install the files again.