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i boot into windows or suse using grub.
i was just reading an article on virtualization and partitions.
the author mentioned doing development on different partitions.
in a win environment, to test and development with partitions
would require more than one copy of an os installed i believe.
the environment variables need to be separate for testing.
i am planning on getting a new sata150 drive soon. drives
are big these days.
i usually set up linux
with a fat32 so i can save to windows, a swap, and a root.
can i duplicate that like 2 different [fat32's,swaps,and roots].
if i already partitioned it in advance using partition magic
can i just in yast under "expert partitions" just select the swap
fat32 and root for each different linux system i want?
install on the first 3 and then go back in and install
on the second 3 (fat32,swap,root)?
i.e. i want to have one where i develop and one where i deploy
that doesnt have the development settings so i can see
how my application will function on a non-development machine.
i want to have different environments for like java and
the tcl/tk languages. since i am not storing music and
dvd's why not use all of this extra space from these
BIG drives? i could have each partition set double -
one partition set for java + tcl development and one partition
set for java + tcl deploy.
i am not sure this will work. please let me know.
it will be cool if i can do it. for a few years now i have
had to go to someone elses computers to test my projects.
and of course it never goes 100% smooth.
Fat32 is the worst filesystem to install linux on. It doesn't save the uid/gid and permission attributes of files. For SuSE, there is an option to install to a directory. You don't need separate swap partitions. You can even use the same /home partition among different installations. Just give each home directory a different name to reduce conflicts with the ~/.kde/ and other settings.
One potential conflict is that different distro's may use a different range of UIDs for regular users. Mandriva starts at 500 while SuSE starts at 1000. This can be changed in /etc/login.defs if you want the same UID range used. So if you have the same UID in different distro's you can share files easily.
Fat32 is the worst filesystem to install linux on. It doesn't save the uid/gid and permission attributes of files. For SuSE, there is an option to install to a directory. You don't need separate swap partitions. You can even use the same /home partition among different installations. Just give each home directory a different name to reduce conflicts with the ~/.kde/ and other settings.
One potential conflict is that different distro's may use a different range of UIDs for regular users. Mandriva starts at 500 while SuSE starts at 1000. This can be changed in /etc/login.defs if you want the same UID range used. So if you have the same UID in different distro's you can share files easily.
Hi -
i only had the fat32 partition to save important data on.
that way i could back up files in windows without having to backup data once for SUSE and once for Windows.
i dont think i will use differnet distros (just SUSE) but that is intersting about the UID for different distros.
ok re: the swap and home partition. thanks.
i dont follow this: "For SuSE, there is an option to install to a directory"???? do you mean in yast i can pick the partition to install the o/s root partition / to ????
i assume i need separate / (root) partitions if i want different settings to develop and test then. is that correct?
Let me see if I get this straight. You want to triple boot with a windows install, and two suse linux installs? I think that's doable.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you'll need one swap partition for each suse install - unless you intend to use hibernation. Since, except in the case of hibernation, the swap partition data becomes irrelevant after each shutdown/reboot.
You'll also only need one fat32 partition (or you can install 'ntfs-3g' for linux, and safely write directly onto a windows ntfs partition).
You can install suse a second time, by re-running its install disk, and making a new partition that it will know as its root. Then have it mount the root of the first suse install as something like /media/suseA.
Then in the first suse install, you can tell it to mount the new suse's root partition as /media/suseB
Of course, as I said earlier, suse A won't see sda3 as a root partition, but as /media/suseB, or something like that. And vice-versa.
A little advice: If you have a second hard disk, you can add swap partitions there to speed up your swap memory access. Remember, swap partitions should not exceed 1gb, and I don't think they CAN exceed 2gb.
Hope this helps (and I hope I'm right about it),
Sam
You can find the install into directory if you go to yast. I think it is intended more for using zen, but it is an option. You could try a test minimal install and then look how the /<dir>/etc/fstab file looks like. It could be that the first root (/) partition is mounted. I don't know if you would need to chroot the directory or something similar. The directory could be a mounted partition. That would allow you to install SuSE there while running SuSE.
Use kdar or tar to backup the linux files to a fat32 partition. Otherwise you will loose the permissions. Remember the 2GB limit for file sizes. I once piped the output of tar through split to backup my home directory to a fat32 external drive. You can restore like: cat /mnt/externaldrive/filename.tar.gz.??? | tar xvzf -
So you don't need to join the parts before using tar to extract them. If you use kdar, you can set the slice size.
hi -
thanks. i really like the tips about ntfs-3g and how to
back up to fat32 (with 2gb file size limits).
i will print all of this information and think it over
some more. i have a few other options possibly and i will
think it all over. this really helped.
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