Solaris 9 for Intel ??

trickykid · 10-23-2002, 09:29 PM

Looks like it might be back. Couldn't find anything else on the subject though, sun.com definitely hasn't mentioned it yet.

Read about it here: http://www.practical-tech.com/infras.../i10232002.htm

stickman · 10-24-2002, 09:18 AM

I haven't seen anything official regarding Solaris 9 for Intel; however, I seem to recall reading something about Solaris 10 being the next release for the x86 platform. Although I can't find anything about it now.

finegan · 10-27-2002, 05:21 PM

Even the man says so, but no date

:

http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris...ouncement.html

trickykid · 10-27-2002, 05:41 PM

At least we know its a definite now.

Bert · 10-27-2002, 06:11 PM

I'm applying for a post with an institute which runs a few Solaris on Intel. At the time, I didn't want to show my ignorance - I didn't know Solaris could be run on Intel.

Excuse my ignorance but are there any convincing reasons why someone wouldn't just install Linux instead? What does Solaris offer without the made to fit hardware?

Bert

Thymox · 10-27-2002, 07:10 PM

Does anybody have any idea as to whether it'll be released for download? I would really love to give Solaris a go, and with a new version being released, there should be no better time! But there's no way I can afford to go on a Solaris course on a teacher-trainee salary!

finegan · 10-27-2002, 07:31 PM

The page says before the end of the year... but then again AMD had at one point roadmapped clawhammer out about 10 months ago so I'm not biting just yet.

Solaris 8 binary CDs are still only $20.

Maybe I should just break down and actually put Solaris on my Sparc... hmm...

Cheers,

Finegan

GtkUser · 10-28-2002, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bert
I'm applying for a post with an institute which runs a few Solaris on Intel. At the time, I didn't want to show my ignorance - I didn't know Solaris could be run on Intel.

Excuse my ignorance but are there any convincing reasons why someone wouldn't just install Linux instead? What does Solaris offer without the made to fit hardware?

Bert

Solaris is free for personal use on X86 (you can download it from the sun website), but I'd stay with Linux on X86. On the other hand Solaris running on Sparc has advantages because the Sparc hardware is more powerful than Intel hardware (more expensive too) and there are added benefits if you are a Java programmer. Note that Solaris9 (on Sparc) also comes with Oracle 9i but not with a license to use Oracle 9i for enterprise work, it's just for learning/evaluation purposes. Solaris is more powerful than Linux, however the real Solaris runs on Ultra Sparc III cu, I'm not too sure how powerful Intel Solaris is going to be, I know that there is less functionality. I believe that Intel/Microsoft is going to turn very opressive in the future and Linux might meet some tidal waves, so it's nice to have Solaris and Sparc nearby.

stickman · 10-30-2002, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bert
Excuse my ignorance but are there any convincing reasons why someone wouldn't just install Linux instead? What does Solaris offer without the made to fit hardware?
Bert

Running Solaris on x86 provides an inexpensive development and staging area when you use Sparc hardware in your production environment. It's pretty easy to come up with a spare x86 machine to test a piece of software or code.

Bert · 10-30-2002, 02:11 PM

What is the nature of the performance hit in running Solaris on SPARC compared to Intel? Limitations?

Are there compatibility issues for example availability of device drivers for Solaris on Intel?

Thanks for any help

Bert

trickykid · 10-30-2002, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bert
What is the nature of the performance hit in running Solaris on SPARC compared to Intel? Limitations?

Are there compatibility issues for example availability of device drivers for Solaris on Intel?

Running Solaris on a SPARC compared to x86 is totally different. It was first designed for SPARC so naturally I do believe it runs better. From what I've seen and heard on a x86, it can be a bit of a hog.

Running on a SPARC, there isn't really incompatiblity issues with hardware, I would hope Sun wouldn't leave out their own hardware when designing the OS to run on it.

But the Intel version your going to run into incompatiblities, not everything is totally supported.

finegan · 12-01-2002, 02:22 PM

It's baaaaaaaaack.

And of course costs $20.

http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris...ess/index.html

Cheers,

Finegan

trickykid · 12-01-2002, 02:26 PM

Hey fin, you pay $20 bucks download it, then I'll download it from you..

finegan · 12-01-2002, 04:10 PM

Think we should get a "poor LQ moderators fund a solaris purchase" PayPal account together? It should snag at least $1.89.

Come on Trick, you paid these jokers $$$ or $$$$ for Solaris training? They should fork for a beta (beta!!!) of x86 solaris 9...

Right now $20 will snag me:

Solaris 9 x86 beta.

or

3 packs of virginian death AND a case of ramen.

or

2 packs of virginian death, 6 packs of ramen, and a pound of good coffee.

or

A night drinking down at the Highlander where hopefully the cigarette promo people will show up...

Dunno man, this is a tough one.

Cheers,

Finegan

trickykid · 12-01-2002, 04:42 PM

I like the idea of the Poor LQ Moderators fund..

Maybe we should wait til after Christmas, I want to at least buy family and friends Christmas cards..

And I just donated my $20 bucks I had to LQ.. kind of a thank you to Jeremy for the site for all his hard work.. plus rent will be late because of that, cause now I have to wait til Friday to have the fundage to actually pay the full amount.. cause I didn't calculate properly my balance in my head this past week. must have missed a check I sent out or something..

But on the side note, my solaris training I got a little outside help with and also, a 25 pack of Ramen goes for $5 at the local H.E.B. Can't beat that, food that lasts almost a month at a time.