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Old 09-04-2017, 06:52 AM   #1
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Oracle laid off the Solaris developers


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The end of Solaris, the UNIX-like operating system developed by Sun Microsystems, is nigh, with the core talent associated with the OS and its SPARC hardware being laid off by Oracle on Friday.
Oracle is evil.

Maybe some of them will help the illumos distros flourish.

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Old 09-04-2017, 03:20 PM   #2
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All these years the guy behind the cdrecord program has been shoving Solaris terminolog in Linux users faces & bitching about glibc. He even started arguments on LKML. I wonder what he will do now?:-D.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 06:04 PM   #3
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What makes you feel Jörg would change what he is doing/claiming?
 
Old 09-05-2017, 03:21 AM   #4
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Software quickly goes obsolete. Solaris won't support the next generation of stuff, and he is stuck where he is. I just wondered will he shut up now.
 
Old 09-05-2017, 10:36 AM   #5
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I expected Oracle to lay off the Solaris and SPARC teams at least 5 years ago.

Yet my current place purchased a new set of Solaris servers just a few months ago. "Told ya so". Shakes head.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 08:57 AM   #6
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Software quickly goes obsolete. Solaris won't support the next generation of stuff, and he is stuck where he is.
He basically has had his own Solaris distribution ("SchilliX") for years. Which probably runs fine on x86-64-based systems.

edit: On-topic, the loss of SPARC makes me sad. Solaris on a server has too long been superseded by FreeBSD as of 2017.
 
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He basically has had his own Solaris distribution ("SchilliX") for years. Which probably runs fine on x86-64-based systems.

edit: On-topic, the loss of SPARC makes me sad. Solaris on a server has too long been superseded by FreeBSD as of 2017.
But Solaris is proprietary sh**. So he gets no upgrades, security fixes, etc; in short, he cannot advance and SchilliX has had a firm push towards obsolescence. I don't feel for the guy. He has qualities that prevent you feeling sorry for him.
 
Old 09-07-2017, 11:38 AM   #8
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OpenSolaris is NOT proprietary.
 
Old 09-09-2017, 07:50 AM   #9
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Alas, the latest from Oracle the belovéd.

But this makes me wonder - will this divert interest and resources towards Illumnos and OpenIndiana? They seem to be struggling a little with manpower but persevering through decently successfully.
 
Old 09-09-2017, 09:21 PM   #10
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This news is sad for me to take in, although now that I can look back. My college professors were right all along, Solaris is fading out, and its pretty much dead at this point. Glad I could learn from what I could while using the Solaris operating system.

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Alas, the latest from Oracle the belovéd.

But this makes me wonder - will this divert interest and resources towards Illumnos and OpenIndiana? They seem to be struggling a little with manpower but persevering through decently successfully.
I wonder this too. I'm going to read this thread I found in Openindiana's mailing list. Which from the first post, it seems that they are willing to open the door for those who got fired from Oracle.

EDIT: Reaction seems to be mixed with in different communities of illumos, especially from OmniOS and they're thread about the whole situation. Both OI and OmniOS threads are very interesting reads, and it offers some insight of what their strategies are with this news.

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Old 09-10-2017, 10:22 AM   #11
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An interesting step would be if a startup formed to provide support contracts for OI and OmniOS from the laid off Solaris developers. It would take some serious initial investments to catch up, but could fill a place in the market if approached correctly.
 
Old 10-24-2017, 02:40 PM   #12
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Unhappy It's a damn shame.

When the best enterprise OS is not even supported by the bitches who own it. That is sad.

Oracle f**ked Solaris by bringing out 11 and changing so much. It was a huge relearn for so many of us sysadmins.

However RH (just as bad as Oracle) have screwed a few million sysadmins with RHEL7. What with systemd and xfs (cough cough shitty fs).
They dropped RHEL6 certification and have pushed their own agenda on the whole Linux world.

Oracle have always got the bad press they deserve for what they did to Solaris, and RedHat will hopefully soon be recognised for their distruction of the whole ideal of Linux.
 
Old 10-24-2017, 05:38 PM   #13
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Oracle has nothing to do with many if not all of the changes introduced by Solaris 11 FCS, released in Nov 2011 which were already designed and mostly implemented in January 2010 when Oracle bought Sun.

Solaris 11 development started in 2005 and some of the disruptive changes you might be complaining of like Crossbow or ips were public in 2007, along with the project Indiana announced at the time Ian Murdock was hired by Sun.
 
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