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Old 01-24-2010, 09:10 PM   #1
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Question Is OpenSolaris worth all the problems?


I know there are several advantages of openSolaris over linux, like ZfS and such, but I have had so many issues with it I sometimes wonder if it's worth the 10 or so hours I would probably have to do to fix them.

Issues:
No network card detected
Sound not detected (Solved, digital is sound default and I use analog
Super slow in boot and running

Advantages:
ZFS
please list other I am unaware of.

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Old 01-25-2010, 01:09 AM   #2
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No.

Sincerely,
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:25 AM   #3
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Problems?? I've installed OpenSolaris a few times and never had any issues as you've mentioned.
Network Card, Sound detection can also be a problem with Linux anyway. As for running slow, that could be that it's not detected your graphics chip. My Ubuntu on laptop has been running at snails pace for that reason.
Not sure about the advantages but it's always worth giving it a good try rather than going by what other people say.
 
Old 01-25-2010, 03:40 AM   #4
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Issues:
No network card detected
Hard to tell without more clues. Just like with any other OS in the planet, some cards are supported out of the box, some need a third party driver and some are just unsupported.
There is a tool on the OpenSolaris desktop that help your figuring it out.
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Super slow in boot and running
The usual reason is not enough RAM installed.
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Advantages:
ZFS
please list other I am unaware of.
Here are some:
  • Dtrace,
  • SMF,
  • Zones,
  • Live/Snap Upgrade,
  • Self healing,
  • Resource management,
  • RBAC,
  • Upward compatibility (committed interfaces)
 
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Old 01-25-2010, 09:47 AM   #5
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Hi Jlliagre

What is the self-healing capacity of OSol...?

Never heard of it...


...interesting...

BRGDS

Alex
 
Old 01-25-2010, 09:56 AM   #6
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Here are some pointers about OpenSolaris predictive self-healing:

http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+fm/
http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/...p+zfs/selfheal
http://blogs.sun.com/jonasdias/entry...th_opensolaris
http://software.intel.com/en-us/vide...-with-nehalem/
 
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Old 01-25-2010, 05:52 PM   #7
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Well, in that case maybe you could elp mewith one of my little problems.
The OpenSolaris install boots once, then never does again.

By the way, my network card needs a third party driver like you said, but first I want to get it booting. I checked out its grub boot commands. This is what it says:

findroot (pool_rpool,1,a)
bootfs rpool/ROOT/opensolaris
splashimage /boot/solaris.xpm
foreground d25f00
background 115d93
kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,console=graphics
module$ /platform.i86pc/$ISADIR/boot_archive

Why are there no hard drive labels? (sda1, sda2 etc.) It looks like it tries to find it first, then boots! That sounds horribly inefficient.

Update: The kernel debugger command doesn't affect anything. It just keeps cycling the orange line for hours on end.

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Old 01-26-2010, 03:29 AM   #8
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Well, in that case maybe you could elp mewith one of my little problems.
The OpenSolaris install boots once, then never does again.
Please elaborate ? Where does it hangs ?
Edit your grub entry to get some verbose boot information, replace
Code:
kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,console=graphics
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kernel$ /platform/i86pc/kernel/$ISADIR/unix -B $ZFS-BOOTFS,console=text -m verbose -v
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By the way, my network card needs a third party driver like you said, but first I want to get it booting.
You might want to install the driver first. That might fix the boot issue.
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Why are there no hard drive labels? (sda1, sda2 etc.)
Because stating them is more often an issue than useful.
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It looks like it tries to find it first, then boots! That sounds horribly inefficient.
It isn't. It looks for the root pool in the boot drive first anyway.
 
Old 01-26-2010, 02:52 PM   #9
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I'll try the verbose when I get home. The screen hangs at the orange bar scrolling across the screen. It never stops, even over a several hour period. Not sure if this is classified as a "hang" or just some strange error.

The strangest thing is that it doesn't do it the first time!

Also, why do you think the network card driver would fix it? Does it do some kind of update after the first boot?

Also, I don't really know where to get a driver for an intel ich7 integrated network card. Do you have any ideas?
 
Old 01-27-2010, 07:50 PM   #10
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Sorry it's taking so long for a response. I temporarily tried installing fedora but I have a bad dvd, thanks to my cake stack being twirled by passers by. I'm reinstalling oSol, so expect an update soon!
 
Old 01-27-2010, 08:02 PM   #11
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Quick Update:
The Computer is booting the first time as expected after this install. Still no internet.... Now I will reboot and see what happens.
 
Old 01-27-2010, 08:03 PM   #12
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Boy, it takes forever to turn off!
 
Old 01-27-2010, 08:05 PM   #13
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Verbose output creates a rapidly changing blue and orange screen. I'm going to try to remove the picture line next time.
 
Old 01-27-2010, 08:09 PM   #14
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Removing the splash image line fixed the problem. It dumps me at a login prompt! It might have something to do with the fact that I need to use the vesa driver on the install cd....

By the way, it says no user folder was found when I logged in, and sure enough the home folder is completely empty!
 
Old 01-27-2010, 08:14 PM   #15
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Check this out.
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=6331
That seems to describe my problem exactly. The Vesa driver option boots, though. Has there been a later version released?
 
  


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