[SOLVED] system upgraded to -current; GUI still not right

textillis · 06-20-2013, 12:43 AM

1. KDE will open cleanly only in "failsafe" mode.
2. Xfce & other options will not open cleanly at all.
3. Tried to install Salix 14 and got same fragmentation.
4. Mint running like mint.
5. Install media is not corrupt.
6. Changed back to older screen and got exactly same resutls as at 1 thru to 5 above.

allend · 06-20-2013, 10:03 AM

Do you see differences in /var/log/Xorg.0.log from Mint when compared to Slackware and Salix?

textillis · 06-20-2013, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allend

Do you see differences in /var/log/Xorg.0.log from Mint when compared to Slackware and Salix?

The output from that log is so voluminous that I haven't yet dared to compare, besides which, I confess, there seems to be so much repetition and apparent redundancy in the log (i stress: apparent) that I can't make head nor tail of it.

However, as your post implies, I must nut it out, if I am to get anywhere.

Thanks for bringing me back to the obvious: I'll do it and get back to this thread tomorrow.

Meantime, interesting damn problem, n'est-ce pas?

allend · 06-20-2013, 06:19 PM

What is the kernel version that is being used in Mint?

textillis · 06-20-2013, 11:18 PM

input:

uname -r

output:

3.5.0-17-generic

textillis · 06-20-2013, 11:38 PM

I've attached the output of /var...0.log from terminal in Mint 14.

thanks Allend

textillis · 06-20-2013, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allend

Do you see differences in /var/log/Xorg.0.log from Mint when compared to Slackware and Salix?

The first thing I notice is that there are no lines in mint output corresponding to slackware lines:
18.292
18.558

respectively.

A closer look reveals this though:

Code:

10.556] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 connected
[    10.556] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI1 disconnected
[    10.556] (II) intel(0): Output DP1 disconnected
[    10.556] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI2 disconnected
[    10.556] (II) intel(0): Output DP2 disconnected

Which is what you'd want to find, right (especially after ...doh! .... unplugging one of the outputs as per your exceedingly helpful tip

)

textillis · 06-20-2013, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

I don't think allend meant that you need to reinstall anything.

If you start at runlevel 3 (console mode), type 'xwmconfig' to chose another DE or WM (tnan KDE) vbefore running 'startx'.

If you start in runlevel 4, choose another DE or WM clicking the arrow (IIRC).

Did i thank you for this, Didier?
If not: merci beaucoup; c'est tres gentil et tres perspicace de vous de me le signaler.
Amicalement,
Tex (australien de souche, pourtant un qui se passionne pour le francais)

Poste Scriptum:
I tried your suggestion; malheureusement, je reste toujours dans le petrin!

Allend continues - heroiquement!- to help me get to the bottom of this problem, as a glance at page 2 (!!??) of this thread will reveal: we are deep in Xorg logs.....

allend · 06-21-2013, 09:47 AM

Your Mint install is using X.Org X Server 1.13.0 and kernel 3.5.0-17, which are later versions than in Slackware 14.0 which is using X.Org X Server 1.12.3 and kernel 3.2.29 ( or X.Org X Server 1.12.4 and kernel 3.2.45 if fully patched).
Slackware 14.0 included newer versions of libdrm and X video drivers for intel in /testing.
From README.TXT

Quote:

| | Finally, there are newer versions of libdrm and
| | the X video drivers nouveau, ati, and intel.
| | These alternate drivers require the libdrm
| | update, so be sure to install that if you try
| | them. These weren't included in the main tree
| | because Mesa is not yet compile-ready for this
| | version of libdrm.

You could try installing these.

Alternatively, you could consider upgrading to Slackware-current which is using X.Org X Server 1.13.4 and kernel 3.9.5

textillis · 06-22-2013, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allend

Your Mint install is using X.Org X Server 1.13.0 and kernel 3.5.0-17, which are later versions than in Slackware 14.0 which is using X.Org X Server 1.12.3 and kernel 3.2.29 ( or X.Org X Server 1.12.4 and kernel 3.2.45 if fully patched).
Slackware 14.0 included newer versions of libdrm and X video drivers for intel in /testing.
From README.TXT

You could try installing these.

Alternatively, you could consider upgrading to Slackware-current which is using X.Org X Server 1.13.4 and kernel 3.9.5

Thanks Allend.
I would have acted on your suggestion regarding "current" but for the fact that I'm having difficulty reading anything or navigating around my slack 14 install; but this has given me an idea to try.
Again, many thanks; I really appreciate your time in looking at this and responding so informatively and rapidly. Big respect.

Edit: course, it just occured to me: i don't need to go into gui to upgrade to -current

....
Now I got me marching orders!
(I'll let you know how it goes)

Didier Spaier · 06-22-2013, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by textillis

Did i thank you for this, Didier?

Yes, you gave me a reputation point that actually allend deserved

OT: to type accented characters using an English keyboard, press together Ctrl+Shift+u, release these three keys then type the four hex digits of the UTF-8 code of the character.

That works in LQ's post editor.

textillis · 06-23-2013, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

Yes, you gave me a reputation point that actually allend deserved

OT: to type accented characters using an English keyboard, press together Ctrl+Shift+u, release these three keys then type the four hex digits of the UTF-8 code of the character.

That works in LQ's post editor.

Of course, I remember. Thanks for the reminder. Where can I find a list of the codes by the way?

Didier Spaier · 06-23-2013, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by textillis

Of course, I remember. Thanks for the reminder. Where can I find a list of the codes by the way?

In your Slackware Linux system: /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz

textillis · 06-28-2013, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

In your Slackware Linux system: /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/UTF-8.gz

Thanks; noted down in my carnet (hard copy!)

textillis · 06-30-2013, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allend

Place the following content in
a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/disable-composite.conf:
Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Disable"
EndSection[/code]
If an alternative window manager fails, then it may be a problem with X. The output from /var/log/Xorg.0.log can help here.

Aside- This 'Mexican' says to watch out for banana benders!

Hi Allend, I tried this last night with high hopes, to no effect.
Just to check I have understood:
do I place the text, exactly as is written above, inclusive of "Section ... EndSection"? In other words: everything, as is, between the full-colon and end code brackets, in a config file which I create, then place in /etc/X11 directory?