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dragonprasad 02-11-2014 10:08 PM

harryhaller after seeing that i am not able to boot directly to my laptop and while checking it on vmware it was working. So can i use Slackware on vmware to build LFS & BLFS?

dragonprasad 02-12-2014 02:24 AM

i have checked the DVD's on my desktop and they are working fine.....
so why are not they working on my laptop....

harryhaller 02-12-2014 03:19 AM

I have googled the net to see if there is anything special about your laptop, but I can't find much about it.

There seems to be some fundamental incompatability, which vmware is hiding - it's probably something small - but we do not know what it is!

I, too, am thinking about using LFS so I would recommend what I would do - and also what some others have recommended: make a knoppix live cd and install LFS from that.

If you install LFS from vmware it brings another layer of complication into any problem solving you have to do when generating LFS.

It is however very strange that 14.1 won't install on your laptop. I was hoping that someone else would have read this thread and suggested a solution, because with regards to Slackware, I can only suggest playing with all the boot parameters that are mentioned in that link above.

With regard to LFS, I'd suggest using knoppix or some other distro - you could also try another Slackware based distro such as Vectorlinux, Salix and others which you can find on distrowatch

It would be interesting to see whether they can install.

Also - you could try installing an earlier version of Slackware such as 14.0.

harryhaller 02-12-2014 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonprasad (Post 5116031)
i have checked the DVD's on my desktop and they are working fine.....
so why are not they working on my laptop....

I don't think the problem has anything to do with your dvds - I think the problem is a hardware compatibility problem with your Levono and that vmware has "masked" this problem.

What we need to do is to get any linux to install on your laptop and then look at the log files to see what differences they show.

Up until now, I have always used second hand pcs (I now have a new one). Interestingly I found that Debian was best at "interrogating" the machine - do you want to try installing debian on your laptop? - it's not a nice distro to work with, but it would be interesting to read the logs and see what it discovered when booting.

If debian can't install, then we will know that your levono is not linux compatible - something which I doubt though.

dragonprasad 02-12-2014 05:12 AM

Thanks harryhaller for your support.
first of all i am building LFS for my college project. I have very less time approximately 3 weeks to finish it.
secondly i have tried installing ubuntu on laptop and it worked very well. but i read some where that Slackware is best for building LFS, so i chose it. and formatted it.
Seeing the problem in booting 14.1 i have downloaded both Ubuntu and Slackware 14.0 for checking whether they get install or not.
Or it would be more kind of you and helpful for me if you suggest me some other Linux distro which will work well to develop LFS.
please i have very less time with me.....

harryhaller 02-12-2014 07:09 AM

Slackware is probably recommended for the same reasons that you should NOT use vmware: Slackware avoids patching programs as much as possible, thus of all the distros, the programs in Slackware are more likely to be "vanilla" - i.e. exactly as the original programmers wrote them up stream. As you can imagine, this is very important when debugging a problem while building LFS.

By contrast, Debian programs are heavily patched, so that if you had a problem with one, the original programmers would be reluctant to help you, as the programs have been patched and they would refer you to Debian.

Having said that, we must not forget that the distro you use is only important in the beginning phase of LFS - although it is the most important stage - when you are building LFS' own tool chain - once it has its own compiler, etc, LFS uses its own stuff. In other words there comes a point when you will boot into LFS itself and continue work using LFS.

I can't recommend anything I haven't tried and with regard to LFS I can only repeat what LFS says or what other LFS posters have said: "What a slacker learned from building Linux from Scratch... ".

Try installing an earlier version of slackware and the matching LFS.

Otherwise just follow LFS' recommendations:
Host System Requirements
How to Build an LFS System

You don't have much time left.

dragonprasad 02-12-2014 07:32 AM

ok
i will keep all this in mind...

dragonprasad 02-13-2014 12:09 PM

harryhaller
i have tried other DVD's also they also din't work....
with Slackware 14.0 it again stuck at the same point.
and when tried with Ubuntu 13.10 it didn't run at all.....
but when i inserted Ubuntu 13.4 it installed properly.......
so i came with conclusion that their is some problem with my laptop only but can any one suggest me where it can be...
since my laptop is still in warranty but the company does not support Linux installations, if any one can tell me what hardware part is faulty then i can get that part exchange by hook or crook....
please help me.....

dragonprasad 02-16-2014 11:44 AM

still the versions are not installing on the laptop any body can help me.....

enorbet 02-25-2014 09:14 AM

I see I'm a bit late to the game but I have to ask, considering how new this laptop is, how you have bios set? It is most likely a UEFI type and therefore not only can step down to legacy bios compatibility (preferred by most) but also you may have to contend with SecureBoot. See Here
Here is a short quote -

Quote:

Originally Posted by uefi wiki
In 2011, Microsoft announced that computers certified to run its Windows 8 operating system had to ship with secure boot enabled using a Microsoft private key. Following the announcement, the company was accused by critics and free software/open source advocates (including the Free Software Foundation) of trying to use the secure boot functionality of UEFI to hinder or outright prevent the installation of alternative operating systems such as Linux. Microsoft denied that the secure boot requirement was intended to serve as a form of lock-in, and clarified its requirements by stating that systems certified for Windows 8 must allow secure boot to enter custom mode or be disabled, but not on systems using the ARM architecture.

This seems the most likely reason for such failures to complete. See if this is what you're dealing with, fix it and your good to go.

dragonprasad 03-02-2014 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 5124359)
I have to ask, considering how new this laptop is

i bought june 2013

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, how you have bios set?
yes you are right about it. It is UEFI type.


But my question is that my laptop is able to install Ubuntu 13.04 and i am using it. But when i am going for Ubuntu 13.10 and Slackware 14.1 or Slackware 14.0 it is not allowing.
So where is the problem. If problem is in hardware then i have chance of getting it repaired or replaced through company or i am only doing some thing wrong or i am missing some thing.....


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