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Jbernoski 01-31-2008 07:09 AM

Slackware 12 install won't boot on 430TX 233 mhz laptop
 
I've tried both huge.s and hugespm.s

Code:

Both times I get
boot: huge.s
loading /kernels/huge.s/bzImage.............................................................(est.)
Loading initidrd.img...isolinux: Disk error 0C, AX = 4280, drive E0

Boot failed:

Now I checked the MD5 values on the iso, I cannot check them after burn since I'm on windows. I did try a burn at 8x which was what I remember doing back awhile to get ISOs to burn properly for my Sega Saturn.

I'd like to blame the disc drive in the laptop (oh boy would I ever), but it seems like it's fine. In fact I just got netbsd i386 installed on it. Though that installer may be less finicky than slack? Though my burner did produce one netbsd coaster, so I wonder if my real issue here is the burner (validating one image with nero 8 brought up a few inconsistencies).

Alternatives? It doesn't have it's own Ethernet port, and I imagine digging out my Ethernet card for it probably won't work from an FTP install. I have wifi, but again that won't work from an FTP install, right? It's not going to let me run madwifi is it?

I guess I could pop the disk into my computer and partition part of it to hold the Slackware 12 install files then boot from that. I'm also going to try Slackware 11 and just be happy with that(which I imagine would allow me to go to slackware 12 more easily). I'd love to hear any suggestions.

EDIT: I just tried Slackware 11 and that works, and Slackware 12 boots on my tower machine. So It's gotta be something with that craptop.

Jbernoski 01-31-2008 05:34 PM

I passed 'no initdrd' and that worked, now my question is ... should that have worked?

onebuck 01-31-2008 08:57 PM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3041019)
I've tried both huge.s and hugespm.s

Code:

Both times I get
boot: huge.s
loading /kernels/huge.s/bzImage.............................................................(est.)
Loading initidrd.img...isolinux: Disk error 0C, AX = 4280, drive E0

Boot failed:

Now I checked the MD5 values on the iso, I cannot check them after burn since I'm on windows. I did try a burn at 8x which was what I remember doing back awhile to get ISOs to burn properly for my Sega Saturn.

I'd like to blame the disc drive in the laptop (oh boy would I ever), but it seems like it's fine. In fact I just got netbsd i386 installed on it. Though that installer may be less finicky than slack? Though my burner did produce one netbsd coaster, so I wonder if my real issue here is the burner (validating one image with nero 8 brought up a few inconsistencies).

Alternatives? It doesn't have it's own Ethernet port, and I imagine digging out my Ethernet card for it probably won't work from an FTP install. I have wifi, but again that won't work from an FTP install, right? It's not going to let me run madwifi is it?

I guess I could pop the disk into my computer and partition part of it to hold the Slackware 12 install files then boot from that. I'm also going to try Slackware 11 and just be happy with that(which I imagine would allow me to go to slackware 12 more easily). I'd love to hear any suggestions.

EDIT: I just tried Slackware 11 and that works, and Slackware 12 boots on my tower machine. So It's gotta be something with that craptop.

What hardware?

You can use the 'md5sum.exe', which is md5sum checker for windows.

If the iso md5 is ok then you should try 'CdromMd5sumsAfterBurning''.

This way you will know if the burn was OK!

This will check the download iso with the known md5sum that you also get with the iso.

You could do a ftp install using the 'lmo-install-0.2.iso', it took about 2 hours for me on DSL for Slackware 12. You should be able to ftp install with the wifi. I would prefer a Ethernet but a wireless should work but a lot slower.

These links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links' .

Jbernoski 01-31-2008 09:33 PM

Yeah, but would that FTP install let me load in madwifi to get wireless on my laptop? I can't find it's ethernet card. Eitherway I think it was a combination of my laptop's drive and the varied programs I'm using to burn.

onebuck 02-01-2008 08:56 AM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3041836)
Yeah, but would that FTP install let me load in madwifi to get wireless on my laptop? I can't find it's ethernet card. Either way I think it was a combination of my laptop's drive and the varied programs I'm using to burn.

What do you mean 'I can't find it's Ethernet card'?

I have used the lmo-install with a Ethernet without problems. As for the wifi, try it. Manfred Muller has done a great job with it.

I'm not sure if the wifi cards are detected. If I have time later then I will test it. We just got about 8-10 inches of snow and it is stalling everything here. I need to dig out my barn to get to the horses.

Jbernoski 02-01-2008 10:41 AM

I mean that I literally can't find the PCMCIA ethernet card for my laptop.

I think I finally got a good burn, but it does seem like I'm going to need to replace my burner. Is there any good way to run a test on a burner to see if it's working ... other than burning loads of slackware discs I mean.

onebuck 02-01-2008 12:08 PM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3042561)
I mean that I literally can't find the PCMCIA ethernet card for my laptop.

I think I finally got a good burn, but it does seem like I'm going to need to replace my burner. Is there any good way to run a test on a burner to see if it's working ... other than burning loads of slackware discs I mean.

What burn application are you using?

Jbernoski 02-01-2008 04:05 PM

I was trying nero and cd burner XP. However I seem to be having the best luck with AlcoholSoft's burner now.

onebuck 02-02-2008 06:39 AM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3042901)
I was trying nero and cd burner XP. However I seem to be having the best luck with AlcoholSoft's burner now.

Did you try slowing the burn rate and then check the burnt image md5 with the original?

Jbernoski 02-02-2008 07:09 AM

Yeah, my only good burn has been produce pretty much randomly.

EDIT: and when I do get Slack 12 installed I get a "No space left on device" error.

onebuck 02-02-2008 07:33 AM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3043496)
Yeah, my only good burn has been produce pretty much randomly.

EDIT: and when I do get Slack 12 installed I get a "No space left on device" error.

Have you changed your media? Is it matched to your burner? Quality of media? Manufacture?

How much space did you allocate for the '/'?

What hardware are you installing too? I've asked before.

Jbernoski 02-02-2008 09:52 AM

Now most of my burns are giving fault errors on install (except that one Slackware 12) either the laptop cd drive is trashed, my media is trashed, or my burner is trashed I honestly don't care.

As for the laptop? Hardware? It's a JETBOOK, model 7050, have no idea what that is? Well that's precisely why I didn't mention it. I put out 35 gigabytes for the slackware install, that's not an issue.

As for the quality of media etc. I don't even want to delve into that, I'm not going and buying new CDRs to diagnose a problem which is most likely that I'm installing into a badly treated decade old laptop.

I'm going to give the online install of slack(if it supports wifi) a go, maybe try to put the install files on a USB and run the setup from a boot disk and if that does work I'm scrapping the Laptop. Though I have tried two different forms of media and gotten similar issues, for what it's worth.

onebuck 02-02-2008 10:34 AM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3043608)
Now most of my burns are giving fault errors on install (except that one Slackware 12) either the laptop cd drive is trashed, my media is trashed, or my burner is trashed I honestly don't care.

As for the laptop? Hardware? It's a JETBOOK, model 7050, have no idea what that is? Well that's precisely why I didn't mention it. I put out 35 gigabytes for the slackware install, that's not an issue.

As for the quality of media etc. I don't even want to delve into that, I'm not going and buying new CDRs to diagnose a problem which is most likely that I'm installing into a badly treated decade old laptop.

I'm going to give the online install of slack(if it supports wifi) a go, maybe try to put the install files on a USB and run the setup from a boot disk and if that does work I'm scrapping the Laptop. Though I have tried two different forms of media and gotten similar issues, for what it's worth.

No wonder your having problems. The Jetbook specs. This is an old laptop. You should roll back to an earlier version of Slackware, I would suggest Slackware 10.2 to start. The max memory is 96MB with a 'Intel Pentium MMX processor 166/200/233 MHz or AMD K6 II 266/300/333 MHz mobile processors' for this laptop. Rather slow for the Intel, hope you have the AMD/333. The BIOS is probably broken (dated) and can cause you other problems.

Once you get a Slackware installed then you could use XFCE for a desktop with some success on this laptop. I use Slackware 10.2 with IBM 760 class laptops with max memory.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3043608)
As for the quality of media etc. I don't even want to delve into that, I'm not going and buying new CDRs to diagnose a problem which is most likely that I'm installing into a badly treated decade old laptop.

As for your unwillingness to follow good advice then your on your own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jbernoski (Post 3043608)
I'm going to give the online install of slack(if it supports wifi) a go, maybe try to put the install files on a USB and run the setup from a boot disk and if that does work I'm scrapping the Laptop. Though I have tried two different forms of media and gotten similar issues, for what it's worth.

I would use 'SlackwareŽ 12.0 USB_Install' if the usb is the route you want to go.

I haven't tested lmo-installer with wifi, been busy. Don't give up so easily. If you do decide to trash the laptop then give it to a re-furbisher that will in turn prepare it for some charity.

BTW, because you switched media doesn't mean it is matched to your burner.

Jbernoski 02-02-2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onebuck (Post 3043650)
No wonder your having problems. The Jetbook specs. This is an old laptop. You should roll back to an earlier version of Slackware, I would suggest Slackware 10.2 to start. The max memory is 96MB with a 'Intel Pentium MMX processor 166/200/233 MHz or AMD K6 II 266/300/333 MHz mobile processors' for this laptop. Rather slow for the Intel, hope you have the AMD/333. The BIOS is probably broken (dated) and can cause you other problems.

Once you get a Slackware installed then you could use XFCE for a desktop with some success on this laptop. I use Slackware 10.2 with IBM 760 class laptops with max memory.

I had a slackware 10.2 install on it! Maybe if I can find the old disc it will run

Quote:

As for your unwillingness to follow good advice then your on your own.
What? It's confusing enough without needing to quest for the proper CDR format. I'd honestly rather burn 6 more coasters and deplete my supply then start weighing the pros and cons of burnable media. I never needed to determine proper media before.

Quote:

I would use 'SlackwareŽ 12.0 USB_Install' if the usb is the route you want to go.
Can't boot from USB. I have no idea how to mount it from ISOlinux.

Quote:

I haven't tested lmo-installer with wifi, been busy.
lmo won't even boot on this thing, so I think that's a no-go.

Quote:

BTW, because you switched media doesn't mean it is matched to your burner.
Is there an actual webpage with a table that will provide me a one word answer to what media I need?

I really appreciate your suggestions here. However without some sort of exact answer (I appreciate knowing that I should stick to 10.2) I really see absolutely no harm in giving up. It installed before, it won't install now, and it's nearing the point where it's no longer worth the effort.

onebuck 02-02-2008 11:00 AM

Hi,

You are not going to be able to install Slackware 12 on the laptop and get it working without some major work. You should use 10.2 or maybe 11. You didn't state which processor you actually have on this laptop or the amount of RAM.

You are being to general in your response and not willing to work to get to the solution.

My crystal ball is cracked therefore when I look over your shoulder everything is blurry. :) When presenting a problem on a forum you need to provide relative information. Not omitting it.

Maybe you should read ' How to Ask Questions the Smart Way or use Find Your LQ Answer'

Quote:

What? It's confusing enough without needing to quest for the proper CDR format. I'd honestly rather burn 6 more coasters and deplete my supply then start weighing the pros and cons of burnable media. I never needed to determine proper media before.
As for the media match and some of the other questions. Do a Google or LQ search. A lot of that has been discussed on this forum has been addressed before. Maybe that is why you have a lot of problems that you are experiencing. Not researching before a problem properly. Buy any CDr and put it in a drive. Then expect it to work. :scratch:

Do some work yourself.

Good luck!


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