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Old 04-01-2007, 05:59 AM   #1
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slackware 11.0 - can't find SATA disk


Hello.
Can somebody help me with this please?

Just bought a new laptop. It came with pre-installed Vista.
It has a SATA disk, in device manager in windows, the controller is specified as: VIA Serial ATA Controller - 0591.

I'm trying to install slack 11.0 on this machine. Tryed booting with sata.i and huge26.s (from DVD). cfdisk can't find any disk. Tryed doing things like:

cfdisk /dev/sda (hda, sdb, hdb...)

Tryed also:

dmesg |grep hd (sd)

It found the DVD on the hdd, but no disk.

Is it hopless or is there some way of installing slackware on this laptop?

Thanks!
 
Old 04-01-2007, 11:13 AM   #2
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try 'fdisk /dev/sda' or 'fdisk /dev/hda', technically it should be sda, but you never know.
 
Old 04-01-2007, 11:48 AM   #3
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try 'fdisk /dev/sda' or 'fdisk /dev/hda', technically it should be sda, but you never know.

Didin't work.
 
Old 04-01-2007, 09:59 PM   #4
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well, to get around the partitioning troubles you could use gPartEd.

did you try bare.i or test26.s ?

alternatively if you have another linux box you can compile a kernel for your new lappy that has VIA sata support (I dunno what is actually built into the stock slack kernels).

what does dmesg | tail show?
 
Old 04-01-2007, 10:44 PM   #5
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Does any other distro boot on that machine ... say knoppix ?
 
Old 04-02-2007, 02:04 AM   #6
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Thnx for all the answers.

I tried booting ubuntu from live CD, it worked. But it had the same
problem as slack - didn't see any disk.

Tried dmsg also, as far as I could see, slack only found DVD rom.


I have another slack box, 10.1 I think....use it as a ADSL router for the LAN.
It works great, I run it in console mode without monitor or keyboard. I'm not
a complete beginner, but I don't know how to compile a new kernel though.

A friend of mine also suggested trying booting the slack like this:
huge26.s all-generic-ide irqpoll

didn't help. ( He said that this is a common problem for new dual core
motherboards, that XP would have some problems also.

Anyway, since I'm used to slack and have good experience with it, I would
really like to stick with it and solve this problem somehow. So if anyone has
some more ideas I would appreciate the help.

Thanks.
 
Old 04-02-2007, 04:26 AM   #7
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This is the specification of the chipset:


Chipset: VIA VN896 + VT8237A
CPU: Intel® Celeron® M processors with 533MHz FSB:
- Celeron® M 430 / 1.73GHz / 1MB L2 cache
- Celeron® M 440 / 1.86GHz / 1MB L2 cache
Intel® Pentium® Dual Core™ processor
with 533MHz FSB
- T2060 / 1.6GHz / 1MB 2nd level cache
Intel® Core™ Duo processors with 533 MHz FSB
- T2250 / 1.73GHz / 2MB 2nd level cache
 
Old 04-02-2007, 07:24 AM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugave_111
This is the specification of the chipset:


Chipset: VIA VN896 + VT8237A
CPU: Intel® Celeron® M processors with 533MHz FSB:
- Celeron® M 430 / 1.73GHz / 1MB L2 cache
- Celeron® M 440 / 1.86GHz / 1MB L2 cache
Intel® Pentium® Dual Core™ processor
with 533MHz FSB
- T2060 / 1.6GHz / 1MB 2nd level cache
Intel® Core™ Duo processors with 533 MHz FSB
- T2250 / 1.73GHz / 2MB 2nd level cache
Hi,

Read the kernels SATA-SUPPORT.TXT to see the one too choose. Did you try the test26 kernel?

The Slackware 11 RELEASE_NOTES has some information worth looking at.
 
Old 04-02-2007, 07:50 AM   #9
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Well, one thing I haven't tried is booting with test26.s - will try that when I come home. But even if it works, is it a good idea to have a system with 'test' kernel?

As far as SATA-SUPPORT.TXT is concerned, the only thing I could find there is general statement if the VIA chipset is supported or not - it doesn't say in detail WHICH VIA chipsests are and which are not supported.

Maybe there really isn't a way to install slack on this machine?
 
Old 04-02-2007, 02:39 PM   #10
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Quote:
I have another slack box, 10.1 I think....use it as a ADSL router for the LAN.
It works great, I run it in console mode without monitor or keyboard. I'm not
a complete beginner, but I don't know how to compile a new kernel though.
if you can do all that compiling a kernel is easy enough (by comparison).

Quote:
have a system with 'test' kernel?
i'm sure the expectation is to install and then build your own kernel, not use test26 forever.

Quote:
Maybe there really isn't a way to install slack on this machine?
you can build a kernel and boot disk on your 10.1 machine, then boot your new lappy with the bootdisk and slack install disk in the cdrom.
 
Old 04-02-2007, 05:31 PM   #11
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Wait, so you have a core duo ?

If so, try compiling the newest kernel and it will likely work. There are issues with core duo and SATA.
 
Old 04-03-2007, 04:40 AM   #12
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If so, try compiling the newest kernel and it will likely work. There are issues with core duo and SATA.[/QUOTE]

Again, thanks for all the answers.

Yes, it's a core duo laptop.


Guess I will have to learn how to compile a kernel. But what then?
I have to make a boot CD with that kernel and then do my partitioning, and
after that boot slack again? If I do that, the sack still won't be
able to recognize my hard drive, right?

Or, do I have to edit the existing slackware DVD so that it includes
a new kernel that I compiled on my 10.1 box?

OK, suppose I find some good tutorial on compiling a kernel, how do I include
this new kernel onto slackware boot DVD?
 
Old 04-03-2007, 06:45 AM   #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugave_111
If so, try compiling the newest kernel and it will likely work. There are issues with core duo and SATA.

Again, thanks for all the answers.

Yes, it's a core duo laptop.


Guess I will have to learn how to compile a kernel. But what then?
I have to make a boot CD with that kernel and then do my partitioning, and
after that boot slack again? If I do that, the sack still won't be
able to recognize my hard drive, right?

Or, do I have to edit the existing slackware DVD so that it includes
a new kernel that I compiled on my 10.1 box?

OK, suppose I find some good tutorial on compiling a kernel, how do I include
this new kernel onto slackware boot DVD?
Hi,

Did you read the Slackware 11 RELEASE NOTE?
Quote:
Clip from RELEASE NOTE;

Anyway, since there is hardware out
there that requires a 2.6 kernel in order to install, this release of
Slackware has both 2.6.17.13 and a 2.6.18 kernels integrated into the
installer. To install using one of these, after booting the first
disc, enter huge26.s at the boot prompt for the supported 2.6.17.13
kernel (which also supports installing via NFS), or test26.s to use the
2.6.18 kernel from /testing. These kernels have compiled-in support
for essentially all of the hard drive controllers and filesystems that
are supported by the 2.6.x kernel series, and should be helpful for
people with new SATA controllers or other hardware that 2.4.33.3
doesn't support. This kernel doesn't have any built in network support
and is primarily intended for installing from local media (although
huge26.s will support an NFS installation if you run the 'network'
script to load your network module, and you're installing from CD or
DVD). After the packages have installed and you've reached the menu
where you are prompted to select a kernel to install, BE CERTAIN to
install huge26.s or test26.s (whichever one you used to install) or
there's a chance that your machine will be unable to boot with the
stock sata.i kernel that you'll end up with.
Check my sig for some good guides on compiling and other Slackware information. For dual core, this has been handled a lot on LQ. Do a search for the Slackware forum. A lot of information!
 
Old 04-03-2007, 07:50 AM   #14
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Hi,
Did you read the Slackware 11 RELEASE NOTE?
Yes, I already tried huge26.s and test26.s - no help there.
 
Old 04-03-2007, 09:28 AM   #15
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if you have a floppy, you could put it on that.
 
  


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