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Old 04-17-2004, 10:59 AM   #16
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I'm trying again and again without success. I really need your help !
 
Old 04-18-2004, 05:33 AM   #17
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I don't know of any logfiles from KDE. the X logfile might help a bit, but since you say X loads fine, that shouldn't help much either.
How far does KDE load? doe you see the splash-screen? does it actually reach the desktop?
Maybe you can try another windowmanager, just to see if your X is all good(slackware comes whit several other windowmanagers, you can select one whit pkgtool)

maybe as a last resold you could remove KDE and X completely whit pkgtool, and after that reinstall them (?)
 
Old 04-18-2004, 06:39 AM   #18
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KDE shows empty gray screen (not the screen that X shows at starting). After ~1 minute it hangs. I am almost 100% sure the error is not in X. Other window managers are all working fine.
Here is the output in the background :

Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pcf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".snf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.Z" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".bdf.gz" already registered at priority 0
Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/, removing
from list!
xset: bad font path element (#56), possible causes are:
Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions
Directory missing fonts.dir
Incorrect font server address or syntax
startkde: Starting up...
ksplash: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name
passed to the constructor!
KCrash: Application 'ksplash' crashing...
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kbuildsycoca running...
SetClientVersion: 0 8
KCrash: Application 'kcminit' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-600' to 'knotify'
ERROR: Communication problem with knotify, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'knotify' crashing...
QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (-3)
KCrash: Application 'kwin' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-606' to 'knotify'
ERROR: Communication problem with knotify, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'knotify' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-611' to 'kwrited'
ERROR: Communication problem with kwrited, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'kwrited' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-700' to 'kdesktop'
KCrash: Application 'kcminit' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-686' to 'knotify'
KCrash: Application 'knotify' crashing...
ERROR: Communication problem with knotify, it probably crashed.
QFont::setPointSize: Point size <= 0 (-3)
KCrash: Application 'kwin' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-692' to 'knotify'
ERROR: Communication problem with knotify, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'knotify' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-697' to 'kwrited'
ERROR: Communication problem with kwrited, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'kwrited' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-700' to 'kdesktop'
ERROR: Communication problem with kdesktop, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'kdesktop' crashing...
DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'anonymous-705' to 'kicker'
ERROR: Communication problem with kicker, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'kicker' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-708' to 'klipper'
ERROR: Communication problem with klipper, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'klipper' crashing...
DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-710' to 'ktip'
ERROR: Communication problem with ktip, it probably crashed.
KCrash: Application 'ktip' crashing...


There are some errors with the fonts but I don't know what they mean nor how to solve them. However I think this can't cause the KDE to crash.

Thank you for trying to help. I can't make it work without your help !
 
Old 04-18-2004, 07:26 AM   #19
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I just started another KDE session from konsole (kind a fun to have 2 KDE sessions at the same time )
here is the relevant output:
Code:
xset:  bad font path element (#64), possible causes are:
    Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions
    Directory missing fonts.dir
    Incorrect font server address or syntax
xset:  bad font path element (#64), possible causes are:
    Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions
    Directory missing fonts.dir
    Incorrect font server address or syntax

startkde: Starting up...
ksplash: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name passed to the constructor!
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kbuildsycoca running...
kded: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name passed to the constructor!
kded: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name passed to the constructor!
SetClientVersion: 0 8
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
it seems the fonts are not the problem; i got the same messages.

just a strange idea; what happens if you start ksplash(by typing ksplash in a xterm?)
 
Old 04-18-2004, 08:38 AM   #20
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Here is the result :


bash-2.05b$ ksplash
bash-2.05b$ QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'khtmlimage.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/service
type 'image/x-portable-anymap'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'khtmlimage.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/service
type 'image/x-portable-graymap'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/opt/kde/share/applications/kde/kuickshow.desktop' speci
fies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-psd'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/opt/kde/share/applications/kde/kuickshow.desktop' speci
fies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-eim'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/opt/kde/share/applications/kde/kpovmodeler.desktop' spe
cifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'KPovModeler/Document'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kcertpart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicet
ype 'application/binary-certificate'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: '/opt/kde/share/applications/kde/kfmclient_war.desktop' s
pecifies undefined mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-webarchive'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-csharp-src'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-csharp-hde'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-eiffel-src'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-ferite-src'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-fortran'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-ilerpg-src'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-javascript'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-kbasic-src'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/mfile'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-sather-src'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-scheme'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-sql'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-verilog-src'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/x-vhdl'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicety
pe 'text/book'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'knotify.desktop' specifies undefined mimetype/servicetyp
e 'KNotify'
kded: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name passed t
o the constructor!
kded: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name passed t
o the constructor!
KCrash: Application 'kded' crashing...
DCOP aborting (delayed) call from 'anonymous-1422' to 'kded'
kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed.
ksplash: WARNING: KGenericFactory: instance requested but no instance name passe
d to the constructor!
KCrash: Application 'ksplash' crashing...
Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy

It produced this screen of errors and no graphical output.
 
Old 04-18-2004, 08:59 AM   #21
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that's a lot more than I get here, but still doesn't help much

anyway, i did some searching around. It seems that cleaning out all your old DCOP sockets and ICE files can help. (don't ask me what those files are.. )

I noticed something related to this someway back; after upgrading KDE, there where a lot of messages about missing links or something like on the console. Deleting some files in my homedirectory helped out (don't remember what files it where..). So now it seems that these files can cause crashes, too.

So what you could try is create a new account, and than try to start KDE. This new account wont have all these DCOP files and whatever else.
Might work
 
Old 04-18-2004, 08:59 AM   #22
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iZvi

I am experiencing the exact same problems updating KDE as yourself. I had previously tried upgrading just Qt from 3.3.0 to 3.3.1 and ran into almost the exact same problem (I left KDE at 3.2.0) although I didn't note down the exact details. Looking at kde.org I notice that Qt is still at version 3.2.3, so I'm wandering if thats part of the problem. I could just download the packages from kde.org instead but I'm on a dial-up line and it took me all day yesterday to get the ones I've got.

Anyway I'll keep my eyes open and see if I can recompile Qt myself to 3.3.1.

Cheers
Amos
 
Old 04-18-2004, 10:26 AM   #23
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Creating new account doesn't helped. The same errors and no idea what is wrong. After 20 days of unsuccessful trying I can't get any KDE version to run ! Probably I will never see KDE on my desktop. I am very disappointed.
 
Old 04-18-2004, 04:58 PM   #24
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Reinstall Slackware 9.1, find somewhere with kde 3.2.0 download all of the slackware packages, arts-1.2.0, quanta-3.2.0 and get a copy of qt-3.3.0-tgz, and you'll be there albeit with a few glitches which the newer version is meant to iron out (can't alter the time from the panel, can't set a schema for konsole, kget tends to crash if you stop and delete a download, or try to start one after another has finished etc).

I've managed to compile my own copy of qt-3.3.1 but I'm having a few teething troubles with it ( I think I might have missed out a configuration option ) so I'll probably have to go back and redo that. But if I can get it working then I'll have a look at compiling kde myself and see where that takes me. If it works I'll let you know.

Cheers
Amos
 
Old 05-14-2004, 02:30 PM   #25
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I upgraded the whole system and now Im writing this from Konqueror and KDE 3.2.2. Thank u all for the help. Seems that some of the system packages have been corrupted or out of date but now everything is ok.
 
  


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