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Old 07-04-2011, 01:02 AM   #16
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Think about the software you want to install in the computer, if you plan to install a lot of software, you'll need some space in your root partition. For example, I have the full Slackware64 13.37 installation, around 70 packages from slackbuilds.org and a few I've compiled, my root partition usage is 6.9GB.

Now think about your own personal files, those go into your /home partition. Then divide the space accordingly.
This is what I just did:

I made /sda1 -> Linux swap -> 128 mb

I made /sda2 -> Linux -> Bootable -> whatever was left

I just configured my swap space in setup. We are now getting somewhere, lol.
 
Old 07-04-2011, 01:08 AM   #17
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We are now getting somewhere, lol.
Great then. Good luck with the installation!
 
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:10 AM   #18
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Great then. Good luck with the installation!
Thank you for all your help. You are a god among men. Stay around just in case though, lol.
 
Old 07-04-2011, 01:19 AM   #19
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Thank you for all your help.
You're welcome.

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You are a god among men.
Who, me? No way, I'm just a lesser daemon in the server... You won't believe the amount of knowledgeable and helpful people here in LQ, best Linux community there is.

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Stay around just in case though, lol.
Your install should be done long before I go to sleep, no worries.
 
Old 07-04-2011, 01:47 AM   #20
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One thing I realized I did wrong was I never installed the LILO, haha. You can now smack me.


EDIT: I'm at root@darkstar... how do I start the GUI (X I believe it's called)

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Old 07-04-2011, 01:50 AM   #21
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One thing I realized I did wrong was I never installed the LILO, haha. You can now smack me.
That's probably why you were getting a blank screen and nothing else.

SMACK!!!
 
Old 07-04-2011, 01:54 AM   #22
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I'm at root@darkstar... how do I start the GUI (X I believe it's called)
After you login as root, create a regular user. It's not advisable to use the system as root all the time.

As root, type adduser to create a new user, then type exit and login again with the user you just created. Once there, type startx to... start X!


Edit: I think you can mark this thread as [SOLVED], it seems your Slackware is up and running now. If you have any other questions, just go ahead and create a new thread.

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Old 07-04-2011, 01:57 AM   #23
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Awesome.

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Old 07-04-2011, 02:14 AM   #24
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There's probably a discrepancy between your graphics hardware and what X thinks your graphics hardware is. But believe me, it would be better to create a new thread with that problem in the main Slackware forum, more people will see it and you'll have better answers than the ones I can give you.

In the meantime, try going back to the shell pressing Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (if it doesn't work, reboot). Then type xwmconfig and select xinitrc.xfce as your DE and try startx again.

If that doesn't work, better create a new thread with detailed information of the problem, eg, the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of lspci (as root).

Good luck friend, see you around.
 
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:04 PM   #25
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Same problem-flashing cursor at boot after install

Hey there,

I think I'm running into the same thing as the original poster. I've tried installing Slackware from the DVD several times (and on two different machines) and after each install I can never get the damn thing to boot from the hard drive.

I'm sure I'm screwing something up, but I used to be able to do this a few years ago.

I'll give you a quick rundown on what I've tried (I've tried to be consistent across installs).

When Slackware boots from DVD (which it does with no problem) I run fdisk or cfdisk and partition the drive. I'm using kind of a teeny drive but I'm not trying to stick all the series of packages on it. I've also tried a larger hard drive which could take the entire thing and it gave me the same results.

I partition an adequate amount for swap space (I've got a gig of RAM in the target machine so I'm not too concerned about having massive amounts of swap space.

I change the type to Linux swap. Then I partition the rest of the drive and have it set to type 83 (Linux).

I've also tried it the other way around (make the root partition first and then the swap partition). I've tried it with flagging the root partition as bootable and as not bootable.

Then I run the Slackware setup. I have it format the swap space and the root partition, then install the base packages (I've tried it with more package bases to no avail). I let it format the root partition in ext4.

I've tried this with and without LILO. I don't really want a bootloader because I intend to have Slackware and only Slackware on this machine (it's an experiment). But I've tried Lilo. I've tried it in the MBR, and in the superblock. And I've skipped LILO.

No custom screen fonts, etc. The installation says it's done and ready to go but whenever I reboot the machine I get a flashing underline cursor in the middle of the screen. Nothing happens no matter what I do or how long I wait.

My assumption is that I am screwing up the partitioning somehow but I don't see how.

Also, I've burned the ISO to two different physical DVDs (using InfraRecorder) and with different DVD burning drives. And tried both DVDs (one a DVD-R, one a DVD-RW, both are read fine by my optical drive). So I don't *think* it's my install discs. I am reluctant to redownload Slackware considering how long it took to download 4 something gigs.

At this point, I am out of ideas. And I'm thinking of throwing up my hands and slinking back to Mint. But figuring out Slackware, even a little is a personal challenge and I want to pull it off.

If you want details on the hardware, here you go:

An HP Pavilion ZE5385. One gig DDR. A Pentium 4 chip. I've also tried it on a Dell with similar specs (Pentium 4-M on the Dell, same amount of memory). I've tried a 4 gig and a 12 gig hard drive, different brands. The HP uses Intel's integrated graphics and the Dell uses a Radeon something.

If anyone can shed light on what I'm doing wrong, I'd be grateful. And yes, I have looked at the Slackware docs and the Slackware Book, and searched Google.

Thank you.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 02:50 AM   #26
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As the install disk works, then the default kernel does not appear to have any problems with your hardware.
Your partitioning seems to be OK. (This can be checked by booting the installer and when you get a root login, look at the output of 'fdisk -l').
You will need a bootloader and LILO is the Slackware default. In the setup you describe LILO is best installed to the MBR.
Are you installing the default -huge kernel?
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I'm using kind of a teeny drive but I'm not trying to stick all the series of packages on it
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I've tried a 4 gig and a 12 gig hard drive
You can do a full Slackware install on a 12GB hard drive.
Perhaps you should try a full install on a 12GB hard drive, accepting the installer defaults. You can always pare back later using 'pkgtool'.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 04:00 AM   #27
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Thank you for your reply. A few questions, if I may:

If I need a bootloader, why does the Slackware install suggest that "skip" installing LILO is the "safe" option? My (very limited) understanding of bootloaders is that you need them if you have multiple operating systems on the same disk (i.e. Slackware and Windows). I want this to be pure Slackware.

I'm slightly reluctant to do a full install of everything because I don't want everything and I don't know enough about pkgtool to fiddle with it. If pkgtool has the menu based interface the installer has, I suspect I can tear the packages out later.

I'm also concerned about disk fragmentation. If I install 6 something gigs of stuff and then tear out 5 gigs, won't that leave fairly horrendous disk fragmentation?

I have no idea what kernel I'm installing. I just went with the defaults in the Slackware installer. I would assume that it installed the huge kernel. As you can tell, I don't know the command line all that well. That's kind of the point of Slackware.

I'm also reluctant to stick LILO in the MBR because I'm concerned about getting rid of it if need be. Partitioning doesn't wipe the master boot record. I did try the old MS-DOS Fdisk /mbr trick but I'm not sure that did the trick either. I eventually had to use a low level formatting utility from Fujitsu to get rid of LILO.

I could roust out an old Pentium III-M machine and see if it likes that better, if you think it would help.
 
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Thank you for your reply. A few questions, if I may:

If I need a bootloader, why does the Slackware install suggest that "skip" installing LILO is the "safe" option? My (very limited) understanding of bootloaders is that you need them if you have multiple operating systems on the same disk (i.e. Slackware and Windows). I want this to be pure Slackware.

I'm slightly reluctant to do a full install of everything because I don't want everything and I don't know enough about pkgtool to fiddle with it. If pkgtool has the menu based interface the installer has, I suspect I can tear the packages out later.

I'm also concerned about disk fragmentation. If I install 6 something gigs of stuff and then tear out 5 gigs, won't that leave fairly horrendous disk fragmentation?

I have no idea what kernel I'm installing. I just went with the defaults in the Slackware installer. I would assume that it installed the huge kernel. As you can tell, I don't know the command line all that well. That's kind of the point of Slackware.

I'm also reluctant to stick LILO in the MBR because I'm concerned about getting rid of it if need be. Partitioning doesn't wipe the master boot record. I did try the old MS-DOS Fdisk /mbr trick but I'm not sure that did the trick either. I eventually had to use a low level formatting utility from Fujitsu to get rid of LILO.

I could roust out an old Pentium III-M machine and see if it likes that better, if you think it would help.
 
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'm also reluctant to stick LILO in the MBR because I'm concerned about getting rid of it if need be.
When you install LILO to the MBR, a copy of the original contents is stored in the /boot directory in a file with a name starting with "boot". Also before you run lilo to install the bootloader, you could do 'dd if=/dev/sda of=/boot/track0.img bs=512 count=63' to save a copy of the entire boot sector. This could be restored by 'dd if=/boot/track0.img of=/dev/sda'.

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'm also concerned about disk fragmentation. If I install 6 something gigs of stuff and then tear out 5 gigs, won't that leave fairly horrendous disk fragmentation?
You betray a Windows background. Linux has internal routines to handle this transparently so the user does not need to be concerned.

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If pkgtool has the menu based interface the installer has, I suspect I can tear the packages out later.
If you have read the documentation then you will know this is the case. pkgtool does have a menu based interface for removing packages. There are threads on the Slackware forum about minimal Slackware installs, so you can find information on the bare minimum requirements. As a first cut you could remove (or not install) certain package series e.g. the e (emacs), kde and kdei (kde internationalisation). Those alone will save approximately 2GB.

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If I need a bootloader, why does the Slackware install suggest that "skip" installing LILO is the "safe" option?
This is very conservative setting so that the installer does not do any damage to an existing operating system install.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 02:47 PM   #30
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Ok, you've convinced me. These are good ideas.

I'll try to resinstall again and stick LILO in the MBR. However, I did try that once or twice and didn't get very far. But it's worth a shot.

How do I clear out the MBR if I need to? I'm assuming that Boot and Nuke will wipe it out?

I liked the option of choosing certain packages to install or not install (I don't really need 50 text editors) but I am concerned that by not taking some packages I would be hosing the install.

My primary interest is the command line but I would like to have X Windows working on Slackware as well, assuming it's practical.

Thanks.
 
  


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