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Old 05-22-2008, 03:11 AM   #106
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BTW From Pat's copright notice:

"Note that you can still redistribute a distribution that doesn't meet these criteria, you just can't call it "Slackware". Personally, I hate restricting things in any way, but these restrictions are not designed to make life difficult for anyone."
Good, Pat V. said it himself. There shouldn't be so many restrictions, when there's really no reason for them. Unless, of course, you still buy into the proprietary mindset of M$ and the evil empire. Most people still do, of course, otherwise I wouldn't be saying this.
 
Old 05-22-2008, 06:42 AM   #107
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I have a CRITICAL BUG to report about Slackware 12.1:

I have a "Fujitsu-Siemens Primergy TX150 S2" server, and I can't install the latest Slackware 12.1 on this server, because the installer not recognize the storage devices. As storage device, I have installed 3x320GB as RAID5, with the usable size of 640GB. I decided to report this as CRITICAL BUG because in this server the Slackware 12.1 is UNUSABLE at all.

BTW I think: this is a typical entry level server, anyway. Is a bad taste for my beloved distribution...

Please, dear Eric, help me to install Slackware 12.1 in this server! I'm desperate man! Help me! I promise! I not want graphical tools in my server, only a fu***ng command line, without NCURSES text interface too!

BTW Because the DARKSTAR Linux 2008 is a "rebranding of Slackware 12.1 with some graphical tools and additional packages", of course, not work. That's is! I not comment... But, the upstream?
I am a bit disappointed that you can take a solid distribution, stamp your own name on it, work with it for eleven years and still you are not able to make it do things that Slackware itself cannot. You say you know the cause and still you cannot solve it?

Remember, that if your hardware needs kernel patches, you are not going to get Slackware to support it. Patched distributions like CentOS would be better suited then.

If you really want Slackware to work on your hardware, and you think it should be possible, you can contact me off-list and let me have a look at your impressions. I may disgree with the way you voice your opinion in this topic, but I have no problems with your Romanian-localized Darkstar Linux. You are diverging from Slackware which is good. You re-distribute your sources which is good. You serve the needs of your local user base which is good. I simply disagree with your idea that Slackware needs a change in philosophy. You should take Darkstar Linux on it's own independent course and not look back at how Slackware evolves.

But what you do have to change is the use of the word "Slackware" all over your distro... even /etc/slackware-version shows "Slackware 12.1.0" which is an obvious copyright infringement.

Eric

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Old 05-22-2008, 05:05 PM   #108
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Okay. I am off on this thread now. I have said everything I wanted to say. All you guys complaining that Slackware does not need a graphical installer: just keep using it as it is. There are just some people out there that would never get in contact with Slackware as-it-is. And there are people that just whant a well preconfigured Slackware Desktop installed in a few minutes (Try it. Don't just look at Screenshots). Configuring a Slackware Desktop like easys does it would normally take 2-3 days.

We provide a way for these people to get in contact with Slackware (also people from non-English speaking countries). All this is done to enlarge the number of Slackware users (read the philosophy before you complain!).

If you think that's wrong: Keep on. But I just can't understand it. If you really love Slackware you would just thank us and say 'Keep that great work going'.

And for those strangers who call this parasite: Just go away. Nothing is wrong in what we are doing. We are not Ubuntu!

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Its fine, in my opnion anyways, to make a slackware-based distro that has a gui installer, but I just disagree with the people that think slackware its self needs a gui installer
 
Old 05-22-2008, 06:32 PM   #109
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Hi,

I don't think SlackwareŽ should have a GUI installer. But having a SlackwareŽ fork with a GUI will help newbies and other distro hoppers with a means to work with SlackwareŽ.

I prefer the curses installer that SlackwareŽ uses and find that a good way to install. Nothing transparent therefore the user will have a means of positive feedback.

Today I had a Dell WinXP machine that needed repair. Just a rebuilt system but everything basically happens in the background therefore some of the drivers had to be manually updated. I hate it when M$ hides everything except the error that really isn't documented nor a means to identify. You have to dig for those.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 04:58 AM   #110
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This debate(?) is spreading, came across this today:

http://beranger.org/index.php?page=d...re-guys-and-gp

Gets a bit heated at the end, although I could only understand the English parts.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 11:30 AM   #111
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It looks just as heated in Romanian. "handicapaţii mentali", I bet you can tell what that means.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 02:47 PM   #112
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Hi,

I don't speak Romanian but some of the heated discussion in English was rather sharp and heated.
 
Old 05-23-2008, 04:45 PM   #113
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Rugby over at Pat's house! Slackware users versus everyone else!
 
  


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