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Old 06-20-2011, 10:26 PM   #16
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ISO location? Not bit torrent, please


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If this is how you want to do this, make sure that LILO (or Grub) is installed to the MBR of your external drive, and not the MBR of windows C:\ drive.
I am too much of a beginner to know how to prevent any default from installing where it wants to.

I'm beginning to believe I may have a defective installation disk. After total failure in installing the program via my laptop to a 500gb hdd, I decided to attempt installation via my desktop computer to an internal 500gb hdd. Everything went fine until the time came to tell the installer the source from which Slackware would be installed. Now, it's curious to me that the installer is running from the CD but when it asks for the source of the Slackware program to be installed from, it cannot find that same CD! I tried to do the autofind about 10 times and then decided to attempt to manually tell it the location. It still could not find the installation CD after my choosing each location option presented on the menu.

Okay, here's the question... can you direct me to a web site that has a COMPLETE ISO of this same program for me to download? Please make it as easy as downloading a copy of Ubuntu... No directories or folders to navigate and and no options or choices... just "Slackware64.iso" (or whatever version you personally recommend) and "Download here." (I do know how to burn an .iso to disk.)

Update: I did the research, viewed torrent tutorial and downloaded the .iso

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Old 06-21-2011, 11:41 AM   #17
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Hi,

Look at Installing Slackware tutorial that will hopefully aid you.

Slackware tutorial index along with Slackware Intro plus Slackware Configuration is a great Newbie tutorial (This tutorial is not complete at this time). Look at Original Thread: New tutorials for installing and configuring Slack for additional information.

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excerpt from sticky 'So you want to be a Slacker! What do I do next?';

'New tutorials for installing and configuring Slack ' is a thread for a great tutorial: http://genek.net/LinuxAdventures/ins...allation1.html by 2handband. I recommend that all should look at this new tutorial for Slackware. Great for everyone!


http://genek.net/LinuxAdventures/sysadmin/index.html new temp link
Newbies will learn a lot by following the sections within. As for the experienced users, it's a good place for us to recommend corrections or suggest areas that concern you. I for one participate with 2handband on subjects that I'm interested in: Slackware! Several other members have participated.
Few of Alien_Bob's links that you will find VERY useful
This post may seem as a potpourri but just culls from the Sticky, Threads & 'Slackware-Links'.

Two good references SlackwareŽ Essentials & SlackwareŽ Basics.

Just a few links to aid you to gaining some understanding;



1 Linux Documentation Project
2 Rute Tutorial & Exposition
3 Linux Command Guide
4 Bash Beginners Guide
5 Bash Reference Manual
6 Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide
7 Linux Newbie Admin Guide
8 LinuxSelfHelp
9 Utimate Linux Newbie Guide
10 Linux Home Networking
11 Virtualization- Top 10

The above links and others can be found at 'Slackware-Links'. More than just SlackwareŽ links!


 
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Old 06-21-2011, 01:29 PM   #18
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Question Same problem, different copy, 2 different computers

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I'm beginning to believe I may have a defective installation disk. After total failure in installing the program via my laptop to a 500gb hdd, I decided to attempt installation via my desktop computer to an internal 500gb hdd. Everything went fine until the time came to tell the installer the source from which Slackware would be installed. Now, it's curious to me that the installer is running from the CD but when it asks for the source of the Slackware program to be installed from, it cannot find that same CD! I tried to do the autofind about 10 times and then decided to attempt to manually tell it the location. It still could not find the installation CD after my choosing each location option presented on the menu.
Okay, I downloaded a new copy from the link on the right side of this page. I chksummed' it and the recording is perfect. However, once again, upon attempting to load from this new disk, exactly same dialog, exactly same problem... it cannot find the source disk from which the program itself is operating from!
Is this a bug? What advice do you offer now? Should I download and try a different version (Slackware only, please)?
 
Old 06-21-2011, 02:25 PM   #19
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Is there any /dev/sr* entry when you booted installer?
There is should be at least /dev/sr0 if you have single DVD-ROM.
Attach here your /var/log/messages
 
Old 06-21-2011, 02:47 PM   #20
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Is there any /dev/sr* entry when you booted installer?
There is should be at least /dev/sr0 if you have single DVD-ROM.
Attach here your /var/log/messages
I type (no quotes) "cfdisk /dev/sdb" to get to the proper hard drive and partition the drive for creating the SWAP and Root partition. After that is complete, I select "Quit" and type "setup." This activates the setup menu and it proceeds without incident until it gets to the source from which Slackware would be installed. When I choose (Option 1)- Slackware CD or DVD, it proceeds to find it. It finds it and then returns me to the main menu. It then asks me to again select the source from which Slackware would be installed. I again select (Option 1)- Slackware CD or DVD. This time it searches for the Slackware CD or DVD and tells me it cannot find it. It then proceeds to search legacy CD IDE connections, etc... We then go back to the main menu where it asks me to again select the source from which Slackware would be installed. Alas.. the circle continues.
 
Old 06-21-2011, 03:09 PM   #21
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Type in console
ls /dev/s[dr]*
and give us output. So we will be sure Linux kernel saw your DVD-ROM.
If there is no /dev/sr0, you can go into BIOS setup and play with different IDE/DVD-rom related configs(something like Legacy IDE, Legacy PATA). If you lucky enough, after some tunnings Linux kernel will be able to see your DVD-device.

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I type (no quotes) "cfdisk /dev/sdb" to get to the proper hard drive and partition the drive for creating the SWAP and Root partition. After that is complete, I select "Quit" and type "setup."
Did you did WRITE operation in cfdisk? Without it no change will be made in partition table.(And I advice you to reboot installation after it)
 
Old 06-21-2011, 05:45 PM   #22
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Hi,

Look at LQ http://iso.linuxquestions.org/slackware/ for downloads.

Another good site: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/

The 'md5sum' or 'hash' is very important to learn to use and too regularly get in the habit of utilizing it. You can get a sum checker for M$ if need be; 'md5sum.exe'.

For GNU/Linux the 'man md5sum' will get you all the information to perform the check. You can get the 'man command' from the 'cli' at anytime.

If you downloaded the CD/DVD ISO then be sure to check the md5sum for the original ISO with the md5sum file for ISO(This can be downloaded at the ISO's origin site). From the cli;
Code:
 ~#cd /downloadisolocation      #cdromiso.iso cdromiso.md5
 ~#md5sum -c cdromiso.md5       #substitute the correct name to check
If the ISO md5 is OK then you should check the image burn with 'CdromMd5sumsAfterBurning''.

This way you will know if the burn was OK!

This will check the download ISO with the known md5sum that you also get with the ISO. You should do the check for any download that you might perform, even a LiveCD. Plus burn the image. Sometimes you may need to lower the burn rate to get a valid burn.
HTH!
 
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Old 06-21-2011, 07:39 PM   #23
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[QUOTE=onebuck;4392195]Hi,

Look at LQ http://iso.linuxquestions.org/slackware/ for downloads.

Another good site: http://slackware.oregonstate.edu/

Thank you for your response but that is waaaaay too much information! I found what I needed elsewhere. Thanks again.
 
Old 06-21-2011, 08:01 PM   #24
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How many attempts before software is "recalled?"

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sonnystarks
Is there any /dev/sr* entry when you booted installer?
There is should be at least /dev/sr0 if you have single DVD-ROM.
Attach here your /var/log/messages
I'm not sure what you are looking for but, I typed in cfdisk /dev/sr* and received pages and pages of information with suggestions of using arrows as opposed to highlighting (???), starting with 0 partitions "instead of PT from disk." Copyright information, various usage information, and more copyright information....

To use an analogy, one does not have to understand the theory of aerodynamics to get a learner's permit. One merely has to get in the car with a competent instructor and be taught the motions... engine and transmission maintenance will come later. I have obtained what I believe is a competent instructor in the eight disk Unix Academy Training DVD set. However, to get back to the analogy, I now own the car (the software) but owning it does not bring it home to my driveway (getting it installed). I should not have to be an Indy 500 expert in theory before I can get behind the wheel and take it for its first cruise with my competent instructor.

I guess what I am trying to say is, there would be no point in my buying a "Beginning in Unix" course if I have to already know and understand all of the theories, procedures, languages, locations and obstacles of Unix before I can even get it downloaded. Should I just install Linux Mint and use the terminal there to learn?

I am being overwhelmed with information. Is this a duplicatable problem or no? I cannot believe I am the first and only person who has ever experienced this problem. If it was on just one computer using one install disk, it could be attributed to the distro disk, the specific computer or user error. However, the very same problem is occurring on two separate computers with two different copies of verified disks (one professionally produced for the course and the other downloaded and verified). I guess what I'm asking is how many attempts are we going to have to make before the version is recalled and the creators fix the problem?
 
Old 06-22-2011, 03:45 AM   #25
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sonnystarks, did you read my message or just pretend to do it?
I asked you to run
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ls /dev/sr*
not
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cfdisk /dev/sr*
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I guess what I'm asking is how many attempts are we going to have to make before the version is recalled and the creators fix the problem?
There will no be any FIXes until we determine problem. Since you are beginner and could not determine what wrong, and so cannot select solution(yes, I'm sure your problem is already solved) we ask you to provide some data: output of command ls /dev/s[dr]* and content of file /var/log/messages.
 
Old 06-22-2011, 10:43 AM   #26
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I am humbled...

You are absolutely right! I made an assumption and that assumption got me into trouble. I will go back and type your command when I have time later this evening. Thank you! It was a humbling and valuable lesson.
 
Old 06-22-2011, 11:33 AM   #27
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How to attach?

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Is there any /dev/sr* entry when you booted installer?
There is should be at least /dev/sr0 if you have single DVD-ROM.
Attach here your /var/log/messages
How do I "attach here?" Is there some kind of copy/paste function or command (during installation) that will copy it to the clipboard so I can paste it here?
 
Old 06-22-2011, 01:21 PM   #28
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redirect output of ls command into file, and copy it and /var/log/messages file to any external storage you have(usb flash, floppy, other hdd), and then attach that files here(in advanced posting form there are attachement management controls)
 
Old 06-25-2011, 10:53 AM   #29
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IDE CD recognition problem?

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redirect output of ls command into file, and copy it and /var/log/messages file to any external storage you have(usb flash, floppy, other hdd), and then attach that files here(in advanced posting form there are attachement management controls)
I'm sorry but I have no idea how to accomplish the above. (a) where in sequence of events to type appropriate commands? (i.e. after I type cfdisk /dev/sdb?) (b) specific commands to type ( to redirect?) (c) assuming the output will be a text file, what program will it be directed to (i.e. notepad?) and must that program be preloaded on my USB to receive it? (d) As Linux does not recognize drives by letter, what command will tell the installation process that I have inserted a USB into my computer?

I do agree now with you that the problem is not in the distro. As an experiment, I downloaded and installed Slackware 12.2 with exactly the same results. However the VERY LONG error message seems to insinuate (as you had suggested in an earlier post) that the program may not be recognizing my "plug and play" IDE CD Drive. That would surprise me as Slackware 13.37 is such a new program.

Thanks again for your help.
 
Old 06-27-2011, 07:07 AM   #30
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DO NOT FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS (except the file redirect).
THERE ARE FLAWS IN THEM. (sorry)
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(a) where in sequence of events to type appropriate commands? (i.e. after I type cfdisk /dev/sdb?)
after setup for:
cat /var/log/messages > messageslog.txt
ls /dev/sr*
can be done when ever you want.

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(b) specific commands to type ( to redirect?)
ls /dev/sr* > textfile.txt


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(c) assuming the output will be a text file, what program will it be directed to (i.e. notepad?) and must that program be preloaded on my USB to receive it?
windows uses file extensions (ie: .txt) to determine which program
.txt goes to notepad by default

linux sends the file to what ever program you open it with

the program only has to be on the operating system you're using and have access to the file

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(d) As Linux does not recognize drives by letter, what command will tell the installation process that I have inserted a USB into my computer?
on my system i use
mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/s10-e-smith
you need to add an fstab entry for this though (at least I did)
mine is:
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/s10-e-smith vfat noauto,rw,user,nosuid,nodev 0 0

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if anyone sees an error in my post, please let me know

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