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Old 08-01-2008, 12:31 PM   #1
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cannnot find cdrom on slackware 8.0


Hi all,

I am trying to install slackware on a old computer 486SX 133Mhz. I have burned slackware 8.0 and it boots. The problem is that it cant find cdrom. I have tryed mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom but I always got an error message.

How can I know with slackware 8.0 the CDROM drive ???

It's stupid to think that I cannot find the cdrom while I have booted with it...

Thanks
 
Old 08-01-2008, 01:31 PM   #2
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My advice: try something more up to date. I have successfully installed Slackware 11.0 on an old Pentium 100 with 2 GB HD and 48 MB RAM. It is used in both console and graphic (Fluxbox) modes and it works great.
 
Old 08-01-2008, 01:32 PM   #3
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I forgot to say that the cdrom is an IDE drive and the error message I get when "mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom" is :
"the kernel does not recognize /dev/hdc as a block device"

Thanks
 
Old 08-01-2008, 01:33 PM   #4
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My advice: try something more up to date. I have successfully installed Slackware 11.0 on an old Pentium 100 with 2 GB HD and 48 MB RAM. It is used in both console and graphic (Fluxbox) modes and it works great.
The problem is that the 486SX doesn't have the coprocessor so I cannot boot any kernel without math emulation, ie almost every recent kernel... But thanks for the advice
 
Old 08-02-2008, 12:25 AM   #5
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I agree with harmattan, I think it is time to try to get a more recent unit, at least a Pll or Plll. You should be able to pick up a throw-away Pll or Plll for next-to-nothing. I applaud your efforts at using old hardware:-) I've run Slackware 10.2 on a Pll 266 with 128 MB RAM..it ran okay:-)
 
Old 08-02-2008, 05:23 AM   #6
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I agree with harmattan, I think it is time to try to get a more recent unit, at least a Pll or Plll. You should be able to pick up a throw-away Pll or Plll for next-to-nothing. I applaud your efforts at using old hardware:-) I've run Slackware 10.2 on a Pll 266 with 128 MB RAM..it ran okay:-)
Thanks for the advice but I really would like to use this 486. Anyway, Slackware 8.0 boots it the only problem is that it cannot find the cdrom...
 
Old 08-03-2008, 12:08 AM   #7
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Hi,

What does your 'dmesg' show you?

Do a 'dmesg |grep -i cd' or 'dmesg |grep -i hd' to see if the kernel is finding the cd. The Slackware 8.0 would use the 'ide-scsi' module. How do you have the ide devices assigned on each channel?

There's nothing wrong with using Slackware 8.0 on older hardware. You should be able to use current releases. But if you want to use older distribution releases there's no problem with doing it.
 
Old 08-03-2008, 01:44 PM   #8
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Thanks for the answer.

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What does your 'dmesg' show you?

Do a 'dmesg |grep -i cd' or 'dmesg |grep -i hd' to see if the kernel is finding the cd. The Slackware 8.0 would use the 'ide-scsi' module. How do you have the ide devices assigned on each channel?
I will try it tomorrow (I don't have the hardware today). But I remember 1 line that appeared during init telling something like "ide 2 already in use". I suspect that's the root cause why the cd is not found but I don't know why it doesn't work...

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You should be able to use current releases.
In fact, I have tried last version but it didn't work. I think it is because I don't have a preprocessor...

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But if you want to use older distribution releases there's no problem with doing it.
I agree with you
 
Old 08-03-2008, 01:53 PM   #9
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Thanks for the advice but I really would like to use this 486.
Best of luck with this:-) onebuck will be able to help you. Just curious. What are you planning to do with the 486? Use as a Desktop?
 
Old 08-03-2008, 02:10 PM   #10
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I am trying to install slackware on a old computer 486SX 133Mhz.
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Just curious - are you sure that it is 133MHz?
33MHz seems more likely.


In that era, a DX-66MHz was a screaming powerhouse.
 
Old 08-04-2008, 03:28 AM   #11
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What are you planning to do with the 486? Use as a Desktop?
In fact, I just want a computer with linux to be able to compil and that's almost all. I'm not looking for any X Window. Just the terminal is enough. After that, depending on what the 486 can do, I will see...

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Just curious - are you sure that it is 133MHz
Yep, I'm sure


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What does your 'dmesg' show you?

Do a 'dmesg |grep -i cd' or 'dmesg |grep -i hd' to see if the kernel is finding the cd
When I try this commands, nothing comes from the log. It seems like the kernel cannot find the cd drive. As I posted on the last message, the kernel displays "ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe" (4 times). I believe this has something to do with the problem. Don't you think ?
Moreover, I tried to plug an HDD (10Gb). In this configuration (HDD + CDROM drive), I cannot find the HDD or the cd drive. The log is :
- hda: probing with STATUS(0xFF) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x00)
- hda: probing with STATUS(0xFF) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x00)
- hda: non-IDE drive, CHS=1024/255/63
- ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
- ide0 at 0x1F0-0x1F7,0x3F6 on IRQ 14
- hda: INVALID GEOMETRY: 255 PHYSICAL HEADS?
To check if the HDD was dead or not, I have tried to boot with a DOS boot floppy and it seems to work...

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How do you have the ide devices assigned on each channel?
I don't understand that. What does that mean and how can I check ?

Thanks for the help,
 
Old 08-04-2008, 09:11 AM   #12
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Hi,
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In fact, I just want a computer with linux to be able to compil and that's almost all. I'm not looking for any X Window. Just the terminal is enough. After that, depending on what the 486 can do, I will see...

Yep, I'm sure


When I try this commands, nothing comes from the log. It seems like the kernel cannot find the cd drive. As I posted on the last message, the kernel displays "ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe" (4 times). I believe this has something to do with the problem. Don't you think ?
Moreover, I tried to plug an HDD (10Gb). In this configuration (HDD + CDROM drive), I cannot find the HDD or the cd drive. The log is :
- hda: probing with STATUS(0xFF) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x00)
- hda: probing with STATUS(0xFF) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x00)
- hda: non-IDE drive, CHS=1024/255/63
- ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
- ide0 at 0x1F0-0x1F7,0x3F6 on IRQ 14
- hda: INVALID GEOMETRY: 255 PHYSICAL HEADS?
To check if the HDD was dead or not, I have tried to boot with a DOS boot floppy and it seems to work...

I don't understand that. What does that mean and how can I check ?

Thanks for the help,
From the 'cli'; you should be entering;

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~#dmesg |grep -i hd          #note do not enter ~# (prompt char)
        ^
       Shift \ is the pipe character
dmesg is the log/ring buffer.

If you are installing another hdd then you will need to setup in the BIOS the disk geometry.

Post your 'dmesg'! Put the 'dmesg' inside the vbcode tag # or quote. These are at the top of the reply window.
You can pipe the 'dmesg' by 'dmesg >mydmesg'. You can direct this to a floppy or even a shared directory on your system.
Make sure the floppy has been formatted.
You can mount the floppy with; 'mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy' then just do a 'dmesg > /mnt/floppy/my_dmesg'. When done you will need to 'umount /mnt/floppy' to unmount the floppy filesystem.
 
Old 08-04-2008, 11:45 AM   #13
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dmesg is the log/ring buffer.
Sorry, I was not very clear. I was not telling that I didn't knew how to use this command. I was saying that there is no occurence of "hd" nor "cd" in the log.

Actually, I have tryed a newer version of slackware (Slackware 10.0) and it appears to work with my configuration (Slackware 12.1 didn't boot).

Anyway, here is the complete log (of slackware 10.0) with only the CD drive (no HDD) :
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Linux version 2.4.26 (root@tree) (gcc version 3.3.4) #6 Mon Jun 14 19:07:27 PDT 2004
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009b000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009b000 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000004000000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fffc0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
64MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 16384
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 12288 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
DMI not present.
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/kernels/bare.i/bzImage initrd=initrd.img load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 ramdisk_size=6464 rw root=/dev/ram SLACK_KERNEL=bare.i
Initializing CPU#0
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 50.79 BogoMIPS
Memory: 58892k/65536k available (1844k kernel code, 6240k reserved, 618k data, 120k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
CPU: After generic, caps: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Cyrix Cx486SLC
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: none
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 3.00 entry at 0xf0031, last bus=0
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router default [17f3/6030] at 00:07.0
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
pty: 512 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10f
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 6464K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
md: linear personality registered as nr 1
md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2
md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
8regs : 90.400 MB/sec
32regs : 51.600 MB/sec
raid5: using function: 8regs (90.400 MB/sec)
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
LVM version 1.0.8(17/11/2003)
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 2607k freed
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Freeing unused kernel memory: 120k freed
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
ehci_hcd 00:0a.1: PCI device 17f3:6061
ehci_hcd 00:0a.1: irq 9, pci mem c00ef000
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ehci_hcd 00:0a.1: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2003-Dec-29/2.4
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xc00ee000, IRQ 5
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:0a.0, PCI device 17f3:6060
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 18:16:33 Apr 14 2004
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
usb.c: registered new driver usbkbd
usbkbd.c: :USB HID Boot Protocol keyboard driver
usb.c: registered new driver hiddev
usb.c: registered new driver hid
hid-core.c: v1.8.1 Andreas Gal, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
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If you are installing another hdd then you will need to setup in the BIOS the disk geometry.
When I boot with a dos boot disk, the HDD is found so I believe that the bios auto-configuration is good.
 
Old 08-04-2008, 12:37 PM   #14
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By the way, are is the logs when I plug the HDD (CDROM + HDD).

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Linux version 2.4.26 (root@tree) (gcc version 3.3.4) #6 Mon Jun 14 19:07:27 PDT 2004
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009b000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009b000 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000004000000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fffc0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
64MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 16384
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 12288 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
DMI not present.
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/kernels/bare.i/bzImage initrd=initrd.img load_ramdisk=1 prompt_ramdisk=0 ramdisk_size=6464 rw root=/dev/ram SLACK_KERNEL=bare.i
Initializing CPU#0
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 50.79 BogoMIPS
Memory: 58892k/65536k available (1844k kernel code, 6240k reserved, 618k data, 120k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
CPU: After generic, caps: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Cyrix Cx486SLC
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: none
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 3.00 entry at 0xf0031, last bus=0
PCI: Using configuration type 1
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router default [17f3/6030] at 00:07.0
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
pty: 512 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS02 at 0x03e8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10f
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 6464K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
hdb: C/H/S=0/0/0 from BIOS ignored
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
md: linear personality registered as nr 1
md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2
md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
8regs : 90.400 MB/sec
32regs : 51.600 MB/sec
raid5: using function: 8regs (90.400 MB/sec)
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
LVM version 1.0.8(17/11/2003)
Initializing Cryptographic API
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP, IGMP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192)
Linux IP multicast router 0.06 plus PIM-SM
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
Freeing initrd memory: 2607k freed
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Freeing unused kernel memory: 120k freed
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
ehci_hcd 00:0a.1: PCI device 17f3:6061
ehci_hcd 00:0a.1: irq 9, pci mem c00ef000
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ehci_hcd 00:0a.1: USB 2.0 enabled, EHCI 1.00, driver 2003-Dec-29/2.4
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-ohci.c: USB OHCI at membase 0xc00ee000, IRQ 5
usb-ohci.c: usb-00:0a.0, PCI device 17f3:6060
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 18:16:33 Apr 14 2004
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
usb.c: registered new driver usbkbd
usbkbd.c: :USB HID Boot Protocol keyboard driver
usb.c: registered new driver hiddev
usb.c: registered new driver hid
hid-core.c: v1.8.1 Andreas Gal, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
hid-core.c: USB HID support drivers
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usb.c: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
Thanks for the help
 
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Cool. Your 486 should be a good compiling work station:-)
 
  


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