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Old 08-11-2019, 03:11 PM   #1
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Ug, my wireless is gone too


I think I used rpi-update way long time ago, I'm currently on:
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Linux pi3.localdomain 4.14.90-v7+ #1183 SMP Fri Dec 21 14:03:50 GMT 2018 armv7l BCM2835 GNU/Linux
For packages, I only have these installed:
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[ installed ] - kernel-firmware-20190726_dff98c6-noarch-1
[uninstalled] - kernel-modules-armv7-4.19.65_armv7-arm-1
[uninstalled] - kernel_armv7-4.19.65-arm-1
[ installed ] - kernel-headers-4.19.65-arm-1
[uninstalled] - kernel-source-4.19.65-arm-1
My question is: can I install the the kernel packages and be ok? Do I need to uninstall rpi-update's kernel?

After I "installpkg kernel_armv7...", is there a lilo step?

Will this even fix my wireless?
 
Old 08-11-2019, 03:18 PM   #2
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I also have these installed:

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kernel-modules-sarpi3-4.14.56-armv7-1_slackcurrent_20Jul18_sp1
kernel_sarpi3-4.14.56-armv7-1_slackcurrent_20Jul18_sp1
sarpi3-boot-firmware-armv7-1_slackcurrent_20Jul18_sp1
sarpi3-hacks-3.0-armv7-1_slackcurrent_20Jul18_sp1
Which modules/firmware/kernel packages should I use? It seems like there's three choices:
1) slackwarearm
2) sarpi
3) rpi-update
 
Old 08-11-2019, 04:17 PM   #3
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post what errors you're getting from your wireless problem

Maybe see my post rfkill: Cannot get wiphy information?
 
Old 08-11-2019, 04:40 PM   #4
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Yes, I read that. You said to install sarpi-hacks, but I'm worried my kernel isnt the same as yours, since I seem to have part of three different ones installed.

What packages do you have installed?
 
Old 08-11-2019, 05:59 PM   #5
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I took the plunge. Upgrading the sarpi packages worked just fine. I'm now running
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Linux pi3.localdomain 4.19.65-v7-arm #23 SMP Sat Aug 10 18:42:14 BST 2019 armv7l BCM2835 GNU/Linux
The sarpi-hacks fixed the wireless.
No lilo, or anything else, you just "upgradepkg *sarpi*.txz" and reboot.
I didn't do anything with rpi-update
 
Old 08-11-2019, 07:47 PM   #6
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Good to hear, glad we were able to get our wifis going.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 07:15 AM   #7
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I took the plunge. Upgrading the sarpi packages worked just fine. I'm now running

The sarpi-hacks fixed the wireless.
No lilo, or anything else, you just "upgradepkg *sarpi*.txz" and reboot.
I didn't do anything with rpi-update
Apologies for not getting back to you sooner but GTA 5 Online is quite demanding right now and taking up a hell of a lot of my time and attention at the moment. In fact, I took time out to reply to a few LQ posts but I really should be in Los Santos, raising Hell while gorging on Jaffa cakes! [Stocked up this morning! ]

The reason why sarpi-hacks includes this shizzle is because the SARPi Project flatly refuses to tinker with or modify Slackware ARM in any way to suit individual, collective, national, global, universal, cross-dimensional, or any other extra-Slackwarial requirements. for public released software. That is; unless MoZes sanctions it. This [obviously] doesn't include Linux kernels or modules, or the README file, which we maul, mangle, and decimate, equally and accordingly to suit. The Slackware ARM source will remain as preserved and intact from the original as much as possible from the SARPi Project. We don't want to be remembering all the dirty hacks and misdemeanours we did to Slackware ARM when in a few months/years time someone will accuse MoZes of skulduggery when the culprit will have been SARPi. That's the kind of eventuality I can see happening if we ever choose to take that dubious path.

Why am I telling you this? Because [what some people don't appreciate is] in order to get things to work, sometimes you have to cut corners and take matters into your own hands, outside the scope of the operating system. With the Raspberry Pi, this is the kind of thing you need to resort to in order to get results. The Raspbian developers patch the system in order to get things to work on the RPi. I'm not sure what state Slackware ARM would be in if we resolved to do the same.

I've spent ~3 days working on the RPi 3/4 wireless and Bluetooth stuff in order to get it working for the convenience of Joe public, none of which I will ever use myself, only for testing. I've managed to get wireless and Bluetooth working on Slackware ARM -current without resorting to any jiggery-pokery or patching. The OS and kernel's configuration covers it adequately. However, the same cannot be said for Slackware ARM 14.2 which is proving somewhat troublesome. Right now I feel that I've spent more time than I would have liked to spend on trying to get it to work. As Slackware ARM 14.2 [i.e. soft float port] will become EOL on the release of Slackware 15, [NB: I am on my god-forsaken knees praying for that day to arrive!] I don't have that much motivation towards nailing a solution for this Bluetooth problem on it. Especially because I won't be using it myself.

If you want wireless/Bluetooth on your RPi3/4 install Slackware ARM -current. When you do and if it's your first time, make sure you wear 2 pairs of pants because Slackware ARM -current is quite a bit quicker then what you'll be accustomed to on Slackware ARM 14.2.

[EDIT] in fact, if any of you would like to roll your sleeves up and get your hands dirty, and take on the Bluetooth issue on Slackware ARM 14.2 on the Rpi 3 and 4... feel free. If/when you are successful let me know your solution and I will include it in the SARPi stuff. Perhaps MoZes may be interested in such information too, you'd have to ask him.

Last edited by Exaga; 08-12-2019 at 07:26 AM. Reason: because I can?
 
Old 08-12-2019, 07:46 AM   #8
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Which modules/firmware/kernel packages should I use? It seems like there's three choices:
1) slackwarearm
2) sarpi
3) rpi-update
You have 3 choices to update/upgrade the kernel, modules and firmware. Official Slackware ARM release doesn't support the Raspberry Pi <insert revision here> very much but certainly doesn't provide pre-configured RPi Linux kernels or boot-firmware packages.

1. SARPi
2. rpi-update.
3. do it yourself [the preferred method!]

My advice/opinion is;

1. SARPi is updated whenever I don't forget to do it and/or can be bothered.
2. rpi-update keeps you up-to-date with the very latest kernel, modules, and firmware.
3. Doing it yourself is going to teach you things you never knew existed and because it's Slackware, you'll be able to do pretty much the same on any other Linux distro once you've learned how to do it. Plus, it opens doors to many other areas of interest and education in Linux.

NB: If you eat Jaffa cakes while using Slackware the experience is intensely more enjoyable, and the learning process is *much* easier and faster!
 
  


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