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Old 02-09-2015, 06:50 AM   #16
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Windows on not part of my everyday life .... but I'm curious to see how it manages on such a limited hardware (with respect to x86). My desktop mgmt colleagues tell me that windows 8 requires a minimum of 1Gb to work but 4Gb to work decently ... let's see what windows will have to offer on something that will perform more or less like a core duo 2 core @ 733Mhz ... with only 1Gb of ram (with FPU performance comparable to a Pentium 90).
Ok I don't have one ... but I made some calculations based on similar hardware with known nbench results .... first one to get the RPi 2 will post the nbench results

If Windows 10 will run nicely maybe I can have one dual boot for my wife so she can use windows on a relatively new hardware
I have a work provided laptop with windows 7 with 8G of ram and its so slooow sometimes its unuseable. You try to run windows on 1G and the users are just going to say the Pi is a POS.

I suppose I've just seen more harm than good coming from Microsoft. My son is already upset that he can't run Minecraft on his windows laptop any more because they changed the launcher from java to an exe and it refuses to run despite all the troubleshooting. I wondered how long after the buyout something would mess up.

I didn't get mine yet, though it was coming when I got a ship notice but it was my backordered solder suckers that shipped.

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Old 02-09-2015, 09:38 AM   #17
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Well, it's quicker than typing:
Code:
shutdown -h now
Now that is marketing. Get your own Photonic off switch............
 
Old 02-09-2015, 12:56 PM   #18
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<provably off topic> Is there anything for Linux similar to MS terminal services? Can I run multiple X sessions off one central server with simple clients built off something like a Pi. i think the last time I asked people suggested something like VNC which gives remote control over just the one session. I want to have a simple box like a Pi sitting where I can login to a normal KDE desktop and run LibreOffice but KDE and LO are running from my server, but as a multi user.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 05:54 PM   #19
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I'm pretty sure X itself was originally designed for the purpose you describe. We just usually use the client on the same hardware as the server these days.
 
Old 02-09-2015, 07:30 PM   #20
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<provably off topic> Is there anything for Linux similar to MS terminal services? Can I run multiple X sessions off one central server with simple clients built off something like a Pi. i think the last time I asked people suggested something like VNC which gives remote control over just the one session. I want to have a simple box like a Pi sitting where I can login to a normal KDE desktop and run LibreOffice but KDE and LO are running from my server, but as a multi user.
Yes, and it's really cool. The language is different so a bit of terminology first.

The server, the X server, is the box you are sitting at, the one with the monitor. The client is the far away one without a monitor (even if it's a server for everything else) it's a client as far as X is concerned.

K? On the server (nearbox) you run kde, or whatever your window manager is. Your programs themselves run on the faraway box.

open 2 terminals

On one type
xauth
and then type
list
you'll see something like
nearbox.blah.blah:0 MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 kjfghlaksjhglkjhkfkjh
Copy that whole line
hit ^D

on the other term ssh to the farawaybox
type
xauth
add <paste>
hit ^D

type
DISPLAY=nearbox:0 xcalc &

tada! xcalc should appear on your screen, it's running on the far away box using the keyboard and monitor of your near box

If you have your ssh keys and .bashrc set up, it becomes seamless.Once you get started, play with fluxbox instead of KDE, with fluxbox/apps and all this it gets really quite addictive, you'll never want to go back

This setup is fine for safe environments, if playing with it out in the wild you'll want at to look at ssh X-forwarding

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Old 02-09-2015, 08:04 PM   #21
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Ohh yea, I had it backwards with xserver. My question is can I run the whole desktop such as KDE or fluxbox remoted or does it have to be individual apps like xcalc. I've done the individual app before.
 
Old 02-10-2015, 01:12 AM   #22
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There's this.

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/...indow-managers

beyond that, yes, you might be looking at vnc or rdp
 
Old 02-10-2015, 01:55 AM   #23
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It literally crashes in a flash

If I had one I'd uncover one component at the time till I find which one is flash sensitive ... and then make a cover for it.
Reading on one of the kinks supplied by ponce reveals that it's U16 that seems to be responsible ... I'm disappointed it wasn't the Broadcom SOC itself.

Anyway X's design requires the clients and server to operate separately ... some 15 years ago I did some experiments on this but I've forgotten exactly what I did ... but one thing I recall was getting the window manager from a HP server to show on a linux desktop without the use of VNC.
I recall something about running X on the linux pc telling it to query a remote server ... but I've forgotten all the gory details and I've been unable to google it up again.

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Old 02-11-2015, 12:15 AM   #24
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My question is can I run the whole desktop such as KDE or fluxbox remoted
I didn't quite understand what you want to do but I have run remote Xfce xsessions on pi from my desktop via wireless using ssh. No reason why it couldn't be done the other way around. In my notes I made a note to try scripting a login with xdotool and passwordless ssh but it would have been a curiosity exercise since I don't use my pi's in xsessions and nowadays don't even install desktop software.

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Old 02-15-2015, 03:18 PM   #25
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Ohh yea, I had it backwards with xserver. My question is can I run the whole desktop such as KDE or fluxbox remoted or does it have to be individual apps like xcalc. I've done the individual app before.
x2go sounds like it will do what you want
http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/doc:newtox2go
 
Old 02-15-2015, 03:40 PM   #26
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I wonder whether this is nearer the mark:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_...Server_Project
 
Old 02-17-2015, 05:15 PM   #27
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It literally crashes in a flash

If I had one I'd uncover one component at the time till I find which one is flash sensitive ... and then make a cover for it.
Reading on one of the kinks supplied by ponce reveals that it's U16 that seems to be responsible ... I'm disappointed it wasn't the Broadcom SOC itself.
Voila!
 
Old 02-19-2015, 10:54 AM   #28
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I got my RP2 past night, going to pop in an SD card with slackware shortly.
 
Old 02-28-2015, 09:27 AM   #29
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I finally got a chance to set it up, took about two hours following the directions in http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-a-4175534892/
 
  


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