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Old 02-02-2015, 08:28 PM   #1
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Raspberry Pi 2 released


http://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale/

I got an e-mail this morning so I ordered one. Will try Slack when it comes in.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 03:25 AM   #2
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Good news.

Well there was announcement about RPi 2 in LQ by Lxer Syndicate News.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 07:50 AM   #3
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I thought it might be beneficial top post here for those of us who skip strait to the Slackware section. My Pi failed at its intended use so I'm hoping this faster with more ram version will do it.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 04:57 PM   #4
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Part of the attraction of the pi was the (more or less) standardised hardware. So a little bit of me is sad.

My 2 B's and 3 B+'s, however, are very sad now, no longer the stars of the family, they can see my envious glances at that hot new babe in town and wonder for their future.

So she breaks with tradition, a loose floozy that also runs Windows10 but what the hell, nothing some Fluxbox can't fix.

Quad Arm7 @900Mhz, 1Gig ram. That's a usable Linux desktop machine for only $35/25.

Sign me up!
 
Old 02-03-2015, 06:56 PM   #5
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Part of the attraction of the pi was the (more or less) standardised hardware. So a little bit of me is sad.

My 2 B's and 3 B+'s, however, are very sad now, no longer the stars of the family, they can see my envious glances at that hot new babe in town and wonder for their future.

So she breaks with tradition, a loose floozy that also runs Windows10 but what the hell, nothing some Fluxbox can't fix.

Quad Arm7 @900Mhz, 1Gig ram. That's a usable Linux desktop machine for only $35/25.

Sign me up!

LOL, sounds like your setting up Windows networking, where the computer name would be Slut, because it will let anyone in or on it.
Not sure if I will use a more powerful one for the entertainment center, or more likely the network diagnostic/Kali box.
 
Old 02-04-2015, 05:15 AM   #6
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What really bugs me about the PI is that I've never actually seen on go for the advertised price in Europe.
35 USD works out to be something like 27 Euro ... the most I'm willing to pay is 27 + VAT ... anything more then that means someone is stealing money.
I don't think they physically make them in US so why is it in the us you get them at the advertised price while elsewhere you get crazy prices. Then the first RPi was out for the public in Italy you had to pay some 50 Euro for it ... that's almost twice as much as the advertised price. I refused to buy one until the price dropped to something acceptable (but still paid 38 Euro ,including VAT, for RPi 1 model B and still had 5 euro stolen from me).
I hop I won't have-to wait again a couple of years for the prices to get reasonable !
 
Old 02-04-2015, 07:55 AM   #7
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I wish they would not advertise that it will run Windows. We don't need a bunch more insecure virus/malware spreading systems all over the place. Not to mention more people saying they don't have time to 'tinker' with Linux. I've found that Windows takes lots more time keeping it working than Linux does. But people are going to throw windows based crap everywhere.
 
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Old 02-04-2015, 10:36 AM   #8
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Enine,

I don't see Windows as that much of a problem, because it may run it, but that won't mean it will run their software they want to put on it. Getting a virus on it, may help teach people the difference between the problems with how that OS is designed, and relying on specific software, rather then learning to use the tools at hand.
Also, I doubt its user base will really be large enough for virus writters to target, so one would end up with an OS/shell and not much else (and see others using it to do more then they can).
 
Old 02-04-2015, 12:26 PM   #9
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The whole Win10 thing is (thankfully?) a bit misleading, it's not the whole gui pile of pooh we see in the shiny laptop adverts, this is a stripped bare IOT (internet of things) appliance. Develop your code elsewhere and then carry it over and run it on the rpi2.

Upsides from this are hopefully Videocore drivers built from docs signed under NDA that can then be reverse engineered.

Possibly also an influx of new customers, attracted by the Windows symbol who then find out that it won't run the Windows they know but instead see what Linux can do. It could also mean lots of second hand, only booted once, rpi2's on fleabay

I see this new pi only as a great thing, a usable desktop machine that draws ~5W and Linux will still be the best OS for it. At 25/$35, even with , psu, case, postage and VAT etc on top it's still a box that can be put anywhere and makes a convincing case for choosing the pi and Linux over an X86 box and Windows that costs 10 times as much be it for Grandma, the kids or for us to play with in the shed.
 
Old 02-05-2015, 03:46 AM   #10
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Well you can have an Intel NUC DN2820FYKH with 2Gb of Ram and a 2.5" sata drive (that you need to add separately) for well under 10 times the price of a RPi ... probably more like 5 time the RPi.
You may even cut down on that and get close to 4 times the price if you go for a Fujitsu Esprimo Q9000 ... but one thing that will probably remain 10 times greater on the x86 is power consumption
 
Old 02-06-2015, 07:55 AM   #11
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Looks like mine is coming today.
 
Old 02-08-2015, 08:20 AM   #12
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I agree with most of what's been written regarding the RPi2. Funny (ha-ha), and kind of cool, how on 1st February if you bought a RPi model B it would have been a single-core ARM11 with 512MB RAM and 24 hours later you'd find it's changed into a quad-core Cortex-A7 with 1GB RAM - for the same price!

The Windows 10 shizzle... hmmm. I wasn't surprised, while watching the Launch of the Raspberry Pi 2 - Press Conference on youtube, to see Eben Upton almost cream himself when the question was asked about Microsoft's plans with Windows 10 for Raspberry Pi 2. Despite the obvious, and historic, drawbacks with the software it's paving the way for a whole new audience of potential users on the device. I think it's a smart move for both the Raspberry Pi and Microsoft. It gives the Raspberry Pi greater marketing potential, a wider audience base, plus another OS under its belt, and it enables Microsoft to stick their fingers into the proverbial Pi (sic), as it were. Let's face it, the Raspberry Pi has become a massive success story and Microsoft, being Microsoft, will want as big a slice of it as they can get away with. It would not surprise me if Microsoft have already made an offer to purchase +51% ownership of the Raspberry Pi, or buy-out the RPi Foundation itself, but that's their business.

I'm only interested in running Slackware ARM on the Raspberry Pi. It's exciting to wonder how Slackware will run on the Pi 2 compared to the original. I'll let you know once I get the blighter to compile and boot successfully!

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Old 02-09-2015, 03:44 AM   #13
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Windows on not part of my everyday life .... but I'm curious to see how it manages on such a limited hardware (with respect to x86). My desktop mgmt colleagues tell me that windows 8 requires a minimum of 1Gb to work but 4Gb to work decently ... let's see what windows will have to offer on something that will perform more or less like a core duo 2 core @ 733Mhz ... with only 1Gb of ram (with FPU performance comparable to a Pentium 90).
Ok I don't have one ... but I made some calculations based on similar hardware with known nbench results .... first one to get the RPi 2 will post the nbench results

If Windows 10 will run nicely maybe I can have one dual boot for my wife so she can use windows on a relatively new hardware

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Old 02-09-2015, 04:31 AM   #14
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I report this just in case you decide to make pictures of it...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/vi...p?f=28&t=99042

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyptwlzRqaI
 
Old 02-09-2015, 04:55 AM   #15
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I report this just in case you decide to make pictures of it...

http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/vi...p?f=28&t=99042

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyptwlzRqaI
Well, it's quicker than typing:
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shutdown -h now
 
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