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Old 01-09-2019, 07:42 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Orange Pi R1


I received an Orange Pi R1 for Christmas: http://www.orangepi.org/OrangePiR1/

All my previous ARM devices are Raspberry Pi's. I usually get my hardware from adafruit.com or Amazon. I am not seeing specific individual hardware components for sale on Amazon for the Orange Pi. There are a few all in one kits but nothing more for the Orange Pi.

Can someone please recommend an online retailer for Orange Pi hardware?

I am not exactly sure what I plan to use this board for just yet. I plan to run Slackware, of course. Ideas are welcome.
 
Old 01-10-2019, 09:10 AM   #2
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I received an Orange Pi R1 for Christmas: http://www.orangepi.org/OrangePiR1/

All my previous ARM devices are Raspberry Pi's. I usually get my hardware from adafruit.com or Amazon. I am not seeing specific individual hardware components for sale on Amazon for the Orange Pi. There are a few all in one kits but nothing more for the Orange Pi.

Can someone please recommend an online retailer for Orange Pi hardware?

I am not exactly sure what I plan to use this board for just yet. I plan to run Slackware, of course. Ideas are welcome.
This is the Orange Pi Plus 2E which are supported. I bought mine from AliExpress.
 
Old 01-11-2019, 12:52 PM   #3
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Is the Orange Pi R1 not supported? I haven't opened the packaging yet, so I could still possibly return it.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 01:06 AM   #4
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I dont's know about your board but I own an Orange PI Zero, it looks similar...
I bought an expansion board https://www.amazon.com/Makerfocus-Or.../dp/B071DM768M
maybe you can check the docs to see if it is compatible with your board, mine is running Slackwarearm current.

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Is the Orange Pi R1 not supported? I haven't opened the packaging yet, so I could still possibly return it.
It may do, but it's not documented so you'd have to figure out. All of the U-Boot binaries are for either the A20 or H3 but the OrangePi R1 is an H5. I'll update the docs on the web site to make it more clear which models are supported. There only used to be one or two models, but the various models aren't all supported.

The R1 looks pretty weak -- I'm not sure you'd even be able to boot the installer on it due to only 256MB RAM. The minimum supported machine has 512MB RAM.

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Old 01-12-2019, 11:22 AM   #6
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A development board might be a possibility. I am a bit concerned about the system requirements for -current with the R1.

Thanks for the heads up, I will have to do a bit more research. I may have to just return this board in the end. I don't think the person who gifted me this board for Christmas had any clue about what they were buying.
 
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For certain tasks, this board is well suited, as for the SlackwareArm, then it is perfect for this board, since it does not have redundant services that consume memory.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 01:38 PM   #8
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For certain tasks, this board is well suited, as for the SlackwareArm, then it is perfect for this board, since it does not have redundant services that consume memory.
I have a Raspberry Pi 1 B+ (512 MB of RAM) running Slackware 14.2 and it idles at 31MB of used RAM. It almost never goes over 100MB of RAM used. As Stuart suggested, the issue is that the installer requires more than 256MB of RAM in most cases to complete the process. I could probably make a very minimal installation with the Orange Pi R1 and skip larger packages so that the installer can complete. Then after the fact I can cherry pick what I need.
 
Old 01-12-2019, 02:01 PM   #9
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I propose to make an image and install it on the SDcard, after which you can go 2 ways, 1 to boot and install it on the package or simply install it on your PC with SDcard support by means of ROOT=/mnt/sdcard installpkg <package>.txz
 
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Old 01-12-2019, 02:48 PM   #10
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I have a Raspberry Pi 1 B+ (512 MB of RAM) running Slackware 14.2 and it idles at 31MB of used RAM. It almost never goes over 100MB of RAM used. As Stuart suggested, the issue is that the installer requires more than 256MB of RAM in most cases to complete the process. I could probably make a very minimal installation with the Orange Pi R1 and skip larger packages so that the installer can complete. Then after the fact I can cherry pick what I need.
The issue with the installer isn't to do with installing packages, it's that the compressed image has to be loaded in to RAM, uncompressed and subsequently held in RAM, with enough RAM left for the operations of the OS. The size of the installer is far larger than it used to be ten years ago when 256MB RAM was a huge amount on an ARM board.

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Old 01-12-2019, 03:03 PM   #11
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For certain tasks, this board is well suited, as for the SlackwareArm, then it is perfect for this board, since it does not have redundant services that consume memory.
I'm not sure how this could work on Slackware ARM: The H5 is a 64-bit machine and there are no "sun50i" models available in the 32-bit Kernel. What have you seen that makes you think it's perfect?

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Old 01-12-2019, 03:25 PM   #12
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I'm not sure how this could work on Slackware ARM: The H5 is a 64-bit machine and there are no "sun50i" models available in the 32-bit Kernel. What have you seen that makes you think it's perfect?
the specification is written (and in the photo) H2 Quad-core 32-bit Cortex-A7

for this, the kernel is built as arm64 (cross compile) and works in a 32 bit environment. so I ran the
SlackwareArm on rockchip rk3399 at the beginning

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Old 01-20-2019, 02:43 AM   #13
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That board is fine for an experiment board and probably some low voltage robotics. Everything is raspberry pi like everything is debian/ubuntsomething (thems just the big market segments) but if its I2C hardware it'll work on anything with I2c pins, same withe serial comms and one wire chips and there aren't any leds, transistors etc made specificaly for raspberry pis

If someone gave me one of those and if I could not return it or felt like a challenge I'd try doing this:
1) Download armbian's 32bit orangepi r1 image put it on an sdcard and compile a uboot binary for the opi-r1 there is a defconfig available for that board. Maybe you can get way doing it on a raspberry pi. Its not a difficult thing to compile.
2) Since drmozes sez the install image is too bit for 256mb ram after its unpacked use the current slackwarearm minirootfs.and install what else I need afterwards.
3) That opi-r1 according to Xunlong is a H2 Quad-core 32-bit Cortex-A7 so Id be hoping that the slackwarearm current /dtb kernel and initrd will work after I put it all together on an sdcard.

Edit: On a closer look I realise there is usb available via a 13 pin function interface but no usb ports on this board so Its not really set up for web cams unless you want to nut out connecting on on the function interface. Maybe a challenge too far.

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Old 02-02-2019, 02:59 AM   #14
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For what it is worth:

pulled a sd card from a fully working Orange PI PC and plugged it to a Orange PI Zero (the same CPU as R1 but mine has 512MB RAM).

Just works.

Do follow up for details in a thread of it's own.
 
  


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