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Old 09-02-2019, 12:58 PM   #16
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The Thunderbird small font issue returned. My solution right now is not autostart the damned thing. I hate bullsh_t problems like this that should never exist in the first place.
One of the things I dislike about XFCE most is the clunky autostart service. I constantly have run into multiplicities like once adding conky to autostart over time I will discover that several instances are running despite disabling "remember my last session". That and one or two other major annoyances brought me back to KDE which does what I tell it. It is also much easier now to pare down KDE services without negative, seemingly unrelated services causing problems, and now my KDE runs only 6% more resources as a base footprint than Xfce. I don't think I'm ever going back to The Clunk, some of which has continued through a number of updated versions.
 
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Thanks for the tips. I haven't used KDE since Akonadi became a "pillar."

I just got hammered with an irritating Xfce quirk. Suddenly pressing the s key inside the terminal resulted in Firefox launching to the online xfce4-terminal help page. Took me several minutes to discover that ~/.config/xfce4/terminal/accels.scm existed with the remapped key. I have no idea what I did to trigger that. I'm not screaming at Xfce, just WTF.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 09:34 PM   #18
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Thanks for the tips. I haven't used KDE since Akonadi became a "pillar."
I am not trying to convert anyone from Xfce to KDE but it is mistaken to assume that Akonadi is a pillar of KDE or Plasma. it is important to certain features but none are fundamental. It has also evolved to being much more tightly controlled and hasn't contributed much at all to resource consumption since very early v4 releases. It is not at all difficult to get within single digit percentages of Xfce's consumption even with akonadi active.

Just FTR on a fresh install with only Plasma and Xfce available, and with no preloading in Xfce of either Gnome or KDE support, Xfce idles at 5% on an 8GB Ram box. Unaltered, unadjusted Plasma 5 idles at 6%. As one might imagine, that 1% difference is undetectable in performance.
 
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not too concerned with RAM usage.

Perhaps someday I'll tinker with KDE -- maybe if Pat includes Plasma in 15.0. OTOH, I have no patience for Akonadi (or any of the "pillars") and won't tolerate anything starting the monster. I do not need any apps in KDEPIM, which is where I last recall seeing Akonadi being triggered, but who knows what else has slipped in the past few years.
 
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Thanks for the reply. I'm not too concerned with RAM usage.

Perhaps someday I'll tinker with KDE -- maybe if Pat includes Plasma in 15.0. OTOH, I have no patience for Akonadi (or any of the "pillars") and won't tolerate anything starting the monster. I do not need any apps in KDEPIM, which is where I last recall seeing Akonadi being triggered, but who knows what else has slipped in the past few years.
So a long time user of KDE points out to a non-user that Akonadi is NOT a pillar (can easily and successfully be removed) yet you, a non-user, persist in referring to it a a pillar? Hmmm... interesting. Also if the whole "resource hog" complaint isn't the issue, in what manner and for what reason do you call it "the monster"? In case I was less than perfectly clear, the 5% Xfce vs/ 6% KDE, was with Akonadi operational.

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Old 09-03-2019, 07:59 PM   #21
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So a long time user of KDE points out to a non-user that Akonadi is NOT a pillar (can easily and successfully be removed) yet you, a non-user, persist in referring to it a a pillar? Hmmm... interesting.
I did not read the post as implying that Akonadi could be removed. I interpreted the post as meaning Akonadi is no longer a pillar, which does not necessarily mean the backend can be removed. Considering the last time I looked at KDE, I seem to recall that was the case and Akonadi was installed regardless. If that is all changed, great.

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Also if the whole "resource hog" complaint isn't the issue, in what manner and for what reason do you call it "the monster"? In case I was less than perfectly clear, the 5% Xfce vs/ 6% KDE, was with Akonadi operational.
A monster in the sense that in KDE 4.x days, Akonadi was installed and anything that was compiled against the backend would resurrect the process even when not wanted. I seem to recall some minor applet, I think a clock applet or something like that, would trigger Akonadi into starting. Again, if those days are now gone then perhaps peace on earth might be achievable.

Thanks for helping and sharing.
 
Old 09-04-2019, 08:39 AM   #22
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... and Thank You, upnort, for being a gentleman. Good fortune in all your endeavors
 
Old 09-08-2019, 02:20 PM   #23
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My latest effort to avoid the Thunderbird small fonts issue is a modified thunderbird.desktop:

Exec=bash -c "sleep 5; thunderbird"

I'll see how that goes the next few days.
 
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I should tag this thread as solved. Although using Exec=bash -c "sleep 5; thunderbird" does avoid the original small font issue, I decided not to autostart Thunderbird. Partly because much of my job is remote (work from home).

While I have split personal and work mails into two profiles, I realized that either way having Thunderbird launch with a boat load of emails before I even check the headline news is rather jolting. I mean, if the headlines reveal we all have an hour to live then why bother reading the emails?
 
  


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