ReaperX7 |
04-24-2013 06:18 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Slackovado
(Post 4937711)
No we don't require Udev!
Saying it's required is just plain wrong.
Linux was just fine before Udev.
I would even argue that it was a far more reliable and stable system than it is now.
I first tried Linux around 1993 and still have the CD set of Slackware 3.3
And I started using it full-time since around 1998 (Mandrake and then couple years later Slackware and ever since) and once set up it was far more stable than it is now.
The DE developers nowadays are simply destroying Linux. They are driving away power users and not really attracting any Windows converts.
Nowadays I've adopted a strict policy of not using any DE dependent applications.
And I've been jumping to Windows 7 more and more, especially for video editing and multimedia stuff as Linux has almost nothing to offer there.
I used have Slackware on my laptop but now I don't bother and it's Windows 7.
It's a sad state Linux is in these days, and Slackware is becoming a victim of it all too.
Sorry about the rant.
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The decision to go to uDev wasn't made by the distributions, it was made by the Linux developers because it was a more fluid system to move hardware devices in and out of the system on the fly. Hotplug, devfs/devtmpfs, and hal were decrepated because they because they were at their limits of development and to improve on them would require an entire re-write of their system functions from the ground up.
The problem with uDev was the uDev developers were enticed by Red Hat and Lennart to add uDev as a part of systemd without giving systemd a full work-up and evaluation before they decided to see if it was worth the venture. To this date many distributions still will not include systemd, but all of them use uDev through the kernel. LFS, Slackware, and Ubuntu still use their own INIT systems like upstart, bsdinit, and sysvinit. Since then a fork of udev has been made to segregate it from systemd again, but many distributions still use the extracted and isolated udev toolkit from systemd.
There have been no plans to revive hotplug, devfs/devtmpfs, and hal as far as I know, though BSD based systems still use something similar to them, but proprietary to BSD I believe.
If KDE and Gnome wish to poison themselves with systemd then let them, and the same goes for all the other distributions who allowed themselves to be suckered in. Gnome already has, but KDE has been rather reluctant, and the same goes with XFCE though it does use portions of upower and udisks for device management purposes.
We need to have some sort of familiarity with Windows to make migrations easier, but yes, we do need to keep GNU/Linux as a UNIX faithful OS and kernel.
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