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slackw1zard 07-13-2019 06:26 PM

Will this torrent work?
 
I know I can play almost any game in the world on slackware with wine or heaven forbid VMware. I wish to download Medieval Total War 2 and play it. Do you think it will work and if so why not?

https://www.thepiratebay.org/torrent...5.REPACK-vol1_


I am doing this as an interested experiment with wine because I have never used it before (never had a need to) and I wish to see it's utility and limitations.

I have a full install, working graphic drivers and am multilib ready. I run slackware current "like a boss".

garpu 07-13-2019 06:30 PM

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4...itive_Edition/

Or you could buy it on Steam and get a Linux native version.

frankbell 07-13-2019 06:30 PM

The key word in "piratebay" is "pirate."

Per the LQ Rules,

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Posts containing information about cracking, piracy, warez, fraud or any topic that could be damaging to either LinuxQuestions.org or any third party will be immediately removed.
In the light of that, even if I knew the answer, I probably would not provide it.

PROBLEMCHYLD 07-13-2019 06:56 PM

Not all torrents are illegal.

slackw1zard 07-13-2019 06:58 PM

Oh would you guys stop it lol. I don't plan on playing it. I want to see if it will work the the prescribed non industry made installer. ALSO MTW2 does not work for linux on steam.

dugan 07-13-2019 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PROBLEMCHYLD (Post 6014772)
Not all torrents are illegal.

Not sure why you said that, since we're talking about one that is.

@slackw1zard: if the pirate modified the game (or its installer) in any way, then consider the pirated version to be an unsupported configuration.

BW-userx 07-13-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PROBLEMCHYLD (Post 6014772)
Not all torrents are illegal.

the torrent file itself is not illegal as they contain to information within them that is copy-write. it is just an address to a file. as far as I know.

ISO's can be torrent'ed as well.
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A torrent file does not contain the content to be distributed; it only contains
information about those files, such as their names, sizes, folder structure, and
cryptographic hash values for verifying file integrity. The term torrent may refer
either to the metadata file or to the files downloaded, depending on the context.

ZhaoLin1457 07-13-2019 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 6014814)
the torrent file itself is not illegal as they contain to information within them that is copy-write. it is just an address to a file. as far as I know.

ISO's can be torrent'ed as well.

Even the downloading of pirated software or content is not illegal.

But there is the jail bait: the distributing/uploading of pirated software or content is illegal, and when someone downloads the files from a torrent, in the same time s/he uploads chunks of those files to other participants.

That's how the torrents work and that's how the stupid people gets fines with six zeroes or jail sentences. Depending on the place of living, even a right hand cut - for stealing.

BW-userx 07-13-2019 10:55 PM

yep but that dude that ran kickass, he still has a valid argument. it is the ones that posted them and seed .. but that is for the courts to decide, and they are just using him for a scape goat, like they did Tommy Chong ..

ehartman 07-13-2019 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 (Post 6014826)
Even the downloading of pirated software or content is not illegal.

In a lot of countries it nowadays IS illegal, so even if you do not share, just download it, you're in breach OF the law.

slackw1zard 07-13-2019 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 (Post 6014826)
Even the downloading of pirated software or content is not illegal.

But there is the jail bait: the distributing/uploading of pirated software or content is illegal, and when someone downloads the files from a torrent, in the same time s/he uploads chunks of those files to other participants.

That's how the torrents work and that's how the stupid people gets fines with six zeroes or jail sentences. Depending on the place of living, even a right hand cut - for stealing.

Well IDK. Do you know anyone who has gone to jail for torrenting? It's essentially the equivalence of buying bootleg DVD's for geeks lol. I honestly want to meet the person (not the guy who created the website like in the gas of the pirate bay or the silk road) who has served time for pirating. I see your point though. You are right. It's just interesting. Most people don't know how to torrent or care and the amount of viruses, bitcoin miners and maleware spread through them in the most discrete of manners more than makes up for it.

slackw1zard 07-13-2019 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BW-userx (Post 6014832)
yep but that dude that ran kickass, he still has a valid argument. it is the ones that posted them and seed .. but that is for the courts to decide, and they are just using him for a scape goat, like they did Tommy Chong ..

Well yea they need a scapegoat obviously. Software should be free though and the government shouldn't be intruding on the very few intelligent ones that manage to share it. If the companies are so worried they should hire and formulate way into which intrusion into their product can be developed which they have already done. So few people torrent it really doesn't have an effect on the market.

Alien Bob 07-14-2019 05:10 AM

Assuming only few people download illegal content and this has no effect on the market means you need to maybe grow up just a little.
Software is not "free" by definition, if someone thinks he needs to implement a business model where you have to pay for using his software, then your challenge is to create your own software that does the same or does the same well enough, and share the code. That is the spirit of free software. If you can not create this alternative to closed-source software then it is not OK to just steal it instead.

DragoonJ 07-14-2019 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 6014900)
Assuming only few people download illegal content and this has no effect on the market means you need to maybe grow up just a little.
Software is not "free" by definition, if someone thinks he needs to implement a business model where you have to pay for using his software, then your challenge is to create your own software that does the same or does the same well enough, and share the code. That is the spirit of free software. If you can not create this alternative to closed-source software then it is not OK to just steal it instead.

I never believed that the words "Steal" and "Software" can coexist in the same paragraph. I agree that if someone wants to make software that would benefit humanity and people then they should use freely available tools or software to make that a reality and use an open-source license, I agree that if you want to mimic the functionality of a proprietary software with an open-source version you're completely free to do so. However, when it comes to downloading software illegally, I can't call that stealing

I may sound like scratched disc when I say this, but when you download software like games or apps and you "hack" them to unlock their full capabilities, that's not "stealing" because you are not depriving the author of the software of sales since you never had the intention to buy it, acquire it or otherwise use it with payment up-front. And also, that you are not taking away someone's software either. If software could be stolen this way, then Adobe wouldn't own Photoshop or Microsoft wouldn't own Windows, which aren't clearly the cases, this is what's popularly referred to as "copying"

Illegally copying software, on a court, is usually ruled as copyright infringement cases, not as "digital thievery" (whatever that means) but on any other point that you said about putting yourself out and try and write software for yourself as an alternative to proprietary offerings is something I agree, as I said earlier.

As for the OP, I don't think I recommend posting TPB's links on a public forum. But that's just my gut feeling

hitest 07-14-2019 11:55 AM

I firmly believe in and support free open source software. I mostly run FOSS. However, I do own legal versions of Windows 10 Pro and MS Office 2019 for my one Windows Thinkpad. They cost a few bucks. I don't believe in running pirated software. Each to his/her own.


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