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Old 12-01-2010, 04:36 AM   #91
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Honestly, I'm not sure what we're still discussing here. The OP's original question has been answered.

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Old 12-01-2010, 04:49 AM   #92
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Trinity runs under Ubuntu. And it is its newest release. Woodsman compiled Trinity suite for Slackware 12.2. I installed these binaries on my fresh Slackware 12.2. But there were problems. Timothy Pearson Trinity developer claims that one can run both Trinity and KDE4 on Ubuntu.
It would appear that the Trinity developers are primarily using Ubuntu- the site(http://http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/) lists six releases, three of which are for Ubuntu, two for Debian, and one for Slackware. That, again, is nothing do do with Slackware; it is due to the distribution preferences of the developers. If Ubuntu suits you, then by all means, use it! Or, as has already been suggested, help with the Slackware port... or, maybe ask Darth Vader for his KDE binaries?
To reiterate(because you seem to be missing the point): this is NOT a Slackware issue.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 05:41 AM   #93
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It's pretty vague what you state, and like you have done during this whole discussion; A vague indication that KDE3 is better than KDE4, because KDE4 is "missing something".
Let me to be clear: I don't think that KDE3 is better than KDE4.
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I could claim the reverse and actually come with examples to give the point.
Examples don't prove that KDE4 is at each part better than KDE3. You may only conculde that for most common application KDE4 is better.
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"Should Trinity be made part of the next Slack, yes, no, I don't care". However, from what I read here, it's not really like it's production ready yet... I could be wrong of course.
Yeah it will be a really good feadback for Timothy Pearson - maintainer of Trinity project - that there are chances to appear Trinity in an official releas of Slackware. But of course I don't belive that it may happens.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 05:46 AM   #94
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Honestly, I'm not sure what we're still discussing here. The OP's original question has been answered.
Yeah. And one of the answers is: do what you want. Does it mean that only a few people care I will use Slackware or not?
 
Old 12-01-2010, 05:52 AM   #95
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Yeah. And one of the answers is: do what you want. Does it mean that only a few people care I will use Slackware or not?
I'm not sure why anyone would care. It's not like we earn a commission if you keep using Slackware :-)

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Old 12-01-2010, 05:54 AM   #96
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Yeah it will be a really good feadback for Timothy Pearson - maintainer of Trinity project - that there are chances to appear Trinity in an official releas of Slackware. But of course I don't belive that it may happens.
More important: it's feedback for Pat and the crew about how many people will want this; But that still doesn't mean that it _will_ become part of the main line; Since I'm not part of the Slack team, I cannot make any promises in that regard ;-) At best those would be empty promises, and I don't make such. Anyway, a bit of exposure for a certain project will not harm it, I guess.

I have to agree with Mudangel here: There are solutions (seems like Trinity would qualify for you, otherwise Darth's packages might help you out) to get a functional DE for you. So I guess you can consider the discussion / question / rant / whatever [SOLVED]

Bottom line it comes down to this: Pat and the crew decide what's coming in and going out of Slackware's next release. KDE 3 was dropped for good reasons. There's a project that continues KDE 3, so if you want that, you install those and be happy.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 07:06 PM   #97
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Yeah. And one of the answers is: do what you want. Does it mean that only a few people care I will use Slackware or not?
I'm not sure what else could be done.

Darth Vader even has offered you packages for a KDE 3 that he built for slackware-current that can be used alongside KDE 4. He's even offered to build the rest of the whole KDE 3 distribution, complete with patches to make it workable ... That seems like a pretty complete solution to me.

Of course, I wouldn't take candy from a Sith Lord, but that's just me.
 
Old 12-01-2010, 11:10 PM   #98
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Yeah. And one of the answers is: do what you want. Does it mean that only a few people care I will use Slackware or not?
Well, yeah, it kind of does mean that... use what works for you. That's one of the great things about Linux, you're not stuck with a handful of suboptimal choices- if Slackware doesn't work for you, there are numerous other options.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 01:23 AM   #99
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Anyway, I'm forced to use KDevelop 3.5.5, because it is the only IDE that has a reasonable support for autotools for my tastes, so I built a Mini-KDE 3.5.10 in Slackware-current to sustain the KDevelop3. I talk about KDE-3.5.10, not Trinity.
Sorry, somehow I didn't notice earlier your post. I am of course interested in what you have done. But I have no -current installed now. Or rather I should say that I have a -current but outdated about 4-6 months. How can I get your packages?
 
Old 12-02-2010, 09:42 AM   #100
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What do you want from people igadotor? You have had a completely comprehensive answer. The main thing you need to realise is that nobody really cares what desktop environment you use - why should they? And nobody cares whether you use Slackware or not - why should they?

Join in the Trinity project to make KDE3 live again if you feel that strongly about it; otherwise stop moaning.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 09:45 AM   #101
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List your requirements to the KDE 4 project and try to get them implemented, or packaged as a feature.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 10:02 AM   #102
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And nobody cares whether you use Slackware or not - why should they?
Do an exercise and think about it.
 
Old 12-02-2010, 10:15 AM   #103
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People should use whatever operating system and/or linux distribution they are happiest with. If you think we should care which one you use, please let us know why.

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Old 12-02-2010, 10:21 AM   #104
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Do an exercise and think about it.
Now that's just silly!
 
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