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11-09-2013, 01:29 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,352
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Will be running Slackware as a guest from now on
I just did a major computer upgrade. I thought: "What games can I play to enjoy it?" Then I looked at the "Linux Games" list in Steam and was very disappointed. The only recent Triple-A game was Metro: Last Night (which I will not play next because I haven't played Metro 2033 yet). Worst of all, Portal 2 is not out for Linux yet!
Therefore, I will be running Slackware as a VirtualBox guest on top of Windows for the next little while. That will get me the entertainment I want from Windows and the productivity I want from Linux.
I might switch to a dual-boot setup some time down the road.
Last edited by dugan; 11-09-2013 at 01:37 PM.
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11-09-2013, 02:14 PM
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Slackware Contributor
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 8,559
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Steam under Wine runs great too. Why Windows?
Eric
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11-09-2013, 02:25 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,352
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alien Bob
Steam under Wine runs great too.
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Great, yes.
Native quality, no.
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11-09-2013, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2008
Location: Romania
Distribution: DARKSTAR Linux 2008.1
Posts: 2,727
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugan
Great, yes.
Native quality, no.
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Of course, not!
Because, Wine is a better gaming platform than Windows, for the Steam (Windows based) Games...
All with using good Nvidia video cards and the right settings...
Strange but true...
Last edited by Darth Vader; 11-09-2013 at 03:22 PM.
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11-09-2013, 03:34 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: distro hopper
Posts: 11,352
Original Poster
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@Darth Vader
Yes, that's sometimes true.
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11-09-2013, 04:44 PM
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Member
Registered: Feb 2009
Distribution: Slackware, Arch
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It's mostly indie games on Steam for Linux right now, but there's still a lot worth checking out, IMO.
These are some of my favorites right now:
Rogue Legacy - difficult Metroidvania roguelike game
Euro Truck Simulator 2 - truck driving simulator
Hotline Miami - super-violent top-down action game w/ cool music
Cook, Serve, Delicious! - addicting restaurant sim
Monaco - co-op heist game
Killing Floor - co-op survival horror FPS (better than L4D2, IMO)
Amnesia/ Penumbra - first person survival horror games
Hammerwatch - co-op game similar to Gauntlet
Ticket to Ride - digital version of the popular board game
Game Dev Tycoon
FTL: Faster than Light
King Arthur's Gold
Not on Steam:
Fancy Skulls - Simple FPS roguelike (still in alpha state)
Then of course there's the stuff from Valve. Half-life, Portal, TF2, etc...
/r/linux_games on reddit is a good place to look for more
Last edited by piratesmack; 11-09-2013 at 04:46 PM.
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11-09-2013, 05:17 PM
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Registered: Oct 2012
Location: The Czech Republic
Posts: 280
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New games are nonsense anyway, PrBoom-Plus & DosBox and i'm all set!
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11-09-2013, 05:19 PM
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Moderator
Registered: Oct 2008
Distribution: Slackware [64]-X.{0|1|2|37|-current} ::12<=X<=15, FreeBSD_12{.0|.1}
Posts: 6,311
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Pinkeye
New games are nonsense anyway, PrBoom-Plus & DosBox and i'm all set!
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Yea, Dosbox and Lemmings - what else could I possibly need?!
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11-09-2013, 05:25 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jul 2011
Location: California
Distribution: Slackware64-15.0 Multilib
Posts: 6,564
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Linux is slowly getting the attention of game developers, but people have to be willing to ask for game ports to get these into existence.
My advice Dugan, hit up your favorite game developers to make ports for Linux, and if necessary start up a petition to gain attention.
The Playstation 4 already uses a variant of FreeBSD 9 with an x86_64 architecture, so getting games onto Linux is probably going to be easy, but if nobody asks, it won't happen.
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11-09-2013, 05:36 PM
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Registered: Apr 2011
Location: Canada
Distribution: Slackware
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My suggestion? Play every single game you can on Slackware (hopefully dual-booted), then play the ones you can't on Windows.
Valve tracks who's playing what on what, and they publish what their linux numbers are. Developers will listen if we play on our favorite systems!
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11-09-2013, 05:43 PM
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MLED Founder
Registered: Jun 2011
Location: Montpezat (South France)
Distribution: CentOS, OpenSUSE
Posts: 3,453
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugan
Therefore, I will be running Slackware as a VirtualBox guest on top of Windows for the next little while. That will get me the entertainment I want from Windows and the productivity I want from Linux.
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Windows is great for playing games. It even produces random crashes.
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11-09-2013, 10:47 PM
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Member
Registered: Aug 2012
Distribution: Slackware64 15.0 (started with 13.37). Testing -current in a spare partition.
Posts: 961
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If you like 3D shooter first person, there is all the games from idsoftware.
I don't know if the new Rage was released for Linux too.
And there is the Steam stuff such Half-Life like piratesmack said.
Another game that I like very much is Unreal (and Tournament),
but I don't know if there is a Linux version for it.
(or if there is Unreal in Steam at all )
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11-09-2013, 11:10 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Feb 2011
Location: Australia
Distribution: Debian Wheezy, Jessie, Sid/Experimental, playing with LFS.
Posts: 2,900
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dugan
Therefore, I will be running Slackware as a VirtualBox guest on top of Windows for the next little while. That will get me the entertainment I want from Windows and the productivity I want from Linux.
I might switch to a dual-boot setup some time down the road.
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Not being a gamer I don't really care about what's available. However, I wonder why you are happy to run Linux in a VM so you an play games on Windows yet you seem not to have considered running Windows in a VM so you can play games.
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11-10-2013, 01:38 AM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 925
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While you can get around with a VM for using productivity desktop applications and even integrate them seamlessly into your Linux desktop using tech like VMware Unity Mode, games virtualization is a thing, that is not there.
Most games require either the graphics software stack from nVidia or AMD to be present, which you only get by installing their drivers. The drivers require the hardware to be present. If you go to advanced topics like nVidia 3D Vision, this may never be happening on Linux at all, at least not on virtual machines.
Regarding Steam usage statistics: I think Valve is mostly interested in who has the Steam client installed for testing it. They know for sure, there will be no mass migration to the Linux desktop for actually playing games. Their porting effort targets the SteamBox with SteamOS and having native Linux games on your Linux desktop is a nice side effect of that.
Finally, some thoughts on running Linux virtualized on a Windows machine: It makes your complete Linux operation dependent on a vulnerable Windows setup and nullifies most of the advantages of the Linux kernel. On top of that, you also put its fate into the hands of your virtualization solution, which may break at any time.
It should be noted, that the Windows host is not Oracle's tier 1 platform, because Oracle needs VirtualBox mostly to virtualize stuff on their Solaris and Linux boxes. For production use, I would recommend a commercially supported VMware Workstation, which is expensive for a reason. (You can get it much cheaper by using VMware Fusion on OS X.)
The biggest advantage of a multi-boot system is that all OSes are completely independent of each other, so if one them breaks, the others still works. If your Windows box gets infested by malware, your Slackware VM is unusable, too. But instead of throwing money on expensive virtualization, you could also throw it on a second machine, because real iron is not that expensive anymore. You can integrate the second box into your primary desktop using X11/RDP remoting or KVM, while still having the advantages of completely independent operation.
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11-10-2013, 02:28 AM
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Member
Registered: Dec 2010
Location: Finland
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
Posts: 61
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For that reason I'm running dualboot as well from time to time. I like it more than virtual machines as that way I won't have possible performance or stability issues though I'm not sure how big are those nowadays.
Games tend to get boring pretty quickly so I think you'll switch back soon anyway.
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