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I guess Patrick owes alot of the credit to Linus for the 2.6.x series of kernels as well as people at Dropline for the top of line line work on Gnome. If you haven't installed Dropline, your really missing out on the whole Slackware experience.
I think you're quite off the mark here.
The Dropline team owes a lot of credit to Slackware and Pat Volkerding, that much I would agree to - not the other way round.
And you now, Linus is no longer the single maintainer of the Linux kernel. Kudos to the countless number of people who keep on adding support for all the new hardware that appears on the market, for which the vendors refuse to release decent linux drivers, or even the specs. Apart from that, I'd love to see a "SlackBSD" in the event that the Linux kernel would move to the GPLv3. IMO it would be quite possible for Pat to create this new distro that radiates the Slackware philosophy, but is based on BSD.
I do not like how Gnome works for me (read: against me) as a user, ever since they deviated from the good work in 2.6. To me, the "Slackware experience" has to do with the way the distro works out as a whole, because of what I can do with it. I am not stuck to KDE, which I like on my beefy desktop. I am just as pleased with XFCE on the lighter laptops and servers I run it on.
What you are referring to is the "Dropline experience" as far as I am concerned.
My 9600 won't do composite so that means Xfce and Beryl have to wait before I can try those out. I was soooo looking forward to using Xfce especially with it's translucency but only to find out that the 9600 can't quite do it properly. Which was actually a shock to me as I thought the 9600 was the be all and end all when it was suggested for my system. But that's progress for you.
I'm thinking a good deal on a 9800 but have to say am very interested in a good nVidia card. What would you recommend for the money? I remember the first time I paid thru the teeth for a video card only to find that Linux didn't have drivers for yet. Spent $400 U.S. on a Hercules something card, only to look up the Internet the next day and pay $25.00 for a ATI card that had only 32 MB of ram yet could do 1920x1200 (or something like that... and that was only shy of the 2048x1200 that the Hercules card could do).
So I haven't first idea on what to get for a nVidia card that will both give me composite yet is easy on the pocket book.
XFCE works fine without compositing/transparency. Support for it was only introduced in 4.4.x in fact. I turned it on, thought "That looks nice", turned it off and haven't used it since.
The Radeon 9600 series do partially support compositing with the latest fglrx drivers, but it is annoyingly buggy - too buggy for Compiz to work. I would invest in an nVidia if you want eye-candy. Or install Enlightenment.
Last edited by Eternal_Newbie; 09-08-2007 at 06:15 PM.
If you haven't installed Dropline, your really missing out on the whole Slackware experience.
Since Dropline doesn't come with Slackware, I doubt I'm missing anything I haven't already experienced when it comes to Slackware.
Dropline has nothing to do with administering Slackware. All it is is a derivative of Gnome. When Gnome was pulled from Slackware, it wasn't a huge loss for me (I'll say the same for KDE, if it were one day stricken from Slackware).
I don't know what this has to do with the OP's question, really, since it isn't a part of the Slackware v12.0 install.
That's a pretty lame excuse. These days you can buy a "top shelf" DVD burner for less than the price of dinner!
I've seen DOS 5 access a DVD ROM without any difficulty, using a generic driver downloaded from the internet. The drive was a Pioneer 111L.
There is no reason to not have a DVD drive any more, regardless of how old your machine is.
This is a blase response. For some people, they can barely afford dinner...just ask a few college students, or someone that is pinching pennies for something of REAL value.
Also, I know of quite a few people that have systems that may not even recognize a DVD burner. There are still systems out there that have floppy and Zip drives, believe it or not.
Thinking outside the box does help understand why some people don't have DVD drives or equipment that could be considered trendy...objectivity helps a ton. Remember that an admin or engineer can still do his/her job without having a DVD drive.
This is a blase response. For some people, they can barely afford dinner...just ask a few college students, or someone that is pinching pennies for something of REAL value.
Also, I know of quite a few people that have systems that may not even recognize a DVD burner. There are still systems out there that have floppy and Zip drives, believe it or not.
Thinking outside the box does help understand why some people don't have DVD drives or equipment that could be considered trendy...objectivity helps a ton. Remember that an admin or engineer can still do his/her job without having a DVD drive.
... as well as people at Dropline for the top of line line work on Gnome. If you haven't installed Dropline, your really missing out on the whole Slackware experience.
Slack comes w/o Gnome (drop-line or others), and that's
a good thing ... as far as I'm concerned Pat doesn't
owe them anything. Seeing Gnome go away was a blessing.
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