Which window manager do you(Slackware user) use? and what set of tools(emacs, vim, mutt, gnus,kde etc.) do you use?
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vi and vim aren't meant to be intuitive. They require study and practice. Only when you've mastered the first 30 to 50 keys will you understand the benefits. When you've mastered the first 100 you will understand what makes vi(m) indispensable. If you don't spend a lot of time writing and editing then it might not be worth your while putting weeks of study and practice into it. If you were born into the SMS generation I understand your aversion. If, on the other hand, you regularly need to edit text in the most efficient way possible there is no equal.
I like this explanation! But, based on this, it seems like I don't do enough writing and editing to warrant spending the time to learn this, only to possibly forget things as I sometimes go months between doing serious coding (I only do it as a hobby, and typically only bash scripts when I find something I need to do). I do know the basics, but it still takes me a bit to recall them to do any sort of editing. That's why I just switch my VISUAL and EDITOR variables to nano.
I still plan on trying to learn it at some point... between vimtutor and the few (probably lots) of websites the provide some sort of tutoring out there (http://vim-adventures.com/), there's plenty of resources to learn it, if you're willing to put in the time.
Since I haven't answered the OP's question yet.
I mainly use KDE, but on my desktop, I'm running xfce due to KDE not functioning properly (this is kinda a Frankenstein machine of software from 14.1, -current, and 14.2 that have all been compiled on my machine, but something broke the KDE tray (it is grayed out and unclickable) and I haven't found the cause yet), but once I upgrade the system to pure 14.2, I'll be back on KDE.
I heavily use konsole (using a login shell for each tab) in conjunction with nano for most of my editing. If I am editing multiple files (like a SlackBuild script with the additional files for an SBo submission), I'll usually open it up in a session or two of kate.
I pretty much only use Chrome except for testing things in other browsers. I do have the latest version of Chrome and Firefox thanks to ruario's scripts and I keep up with Chromium thanks to Alien Bob.
I also use krusader as my primary file manager. I just can't get along without the dual panes.
I use akregator to manage my newsfeeds (keeping up with changelogs from Slackware and Eric and a few of the blogs I'm interested in). I only use webmail and mainly through my Android phone.
I use transmission for my torrents, but I haven't found a GUI frontend that I'm fully enjoying. There's bits and pieces I enjoy out of the stock gtk and qt versions, but they fall seriously flat in other areas (can't think of what right now), and right now I'm primarily use transgui.
I use virtualbox for my VM stuff, but I plan on learning qemu/kvm and switching to that.
I mainly use smplayer when I decide to watch videos on my desktop, but I do have VLC from Eric installed for testing. However, I usually watch things on my TV through my htpc.
My screenshots are boring, because my desktop is never actually visible. I always have windows open, usually krusader and konsole in my right monitor and chrome in my left. I don't tweak the desktop hardly at all.
Slackware is just a hobby for me (for now). I don't make any money off it. I manage my media collection (acts as an NFS server to my htpc downstairs running Slackware and kodi), host a few minor things for friends, and maintain a few SlackBuilds on there, but otherwise it's mostly a standard desktop with standard uses.
I've been using Slackware since probably 2004 or 2005. I think it was 10.1 or 10.2 that was my first foray into it. I had used Redhat 7.0 prior in my college linux class, which is where I learned of my love for bash and the CLI.
Tangentially - Few people learn even what Krunner can do let alone Vi, but both offer much wider and efficient usage than is possible to realize without at least checking some tutorials, of which plenty exist in every format including self-help YouTube videos. When cars and telephones were first introduced many people took the attitude "Got along without ya before I met ya gonna get along without ya now" but before long people discovered they were missing out and a luxury became a necessity. A Text Editor is nowhere near as obvious but the similarity is there, that even casual users can benefit from just 20 minutes of research instead of just assuming "I don't see how I need it" and stopping there.
I like this explanation! But, based on this,
it seems like I don't do enough writing and editing to warrant spending
the time to learn this, only to possibly forget things as I sometimes go
months between doing serious coding (I only do it as a hobby, and
typically only bash scripts when I find something I need to do). I do
know the basics, but it still takes me a bit to recall them to do any
sort of editing. That's why I just switch my VISUAL and EDITOR variables
to nano.
The vimperator add-on for Firefox will allow you to use vim for your LQ
posts!
(Tip: Ctrl-i when you're in a text-entry box and vimperator will open
gvim for you to practise.)
Distribution: slackware x86_64 , arm , slackware , AlmaLinux
Posts: 83
Rep:
wm: fvwm95 - yes i rearly have to patch it every time i instal a new slackware
browser: seamonkey
mail: thunderbird
editor: joe
office: libreoffice
terminal: rxvt or xterm
shell: bash
and i can't live without "rxvt -e mc -c &"
and many self written shellscripts in my ~/bin directory ...
i am to old to change my wm - lol
need to have 3x3 virtual desktops - all full of open windows - witch stay there till the next powerfail what my ups could not protect me from
i have had some in the last years witch are between 20min to 2h - after 30min the ups gives up (;
wm: ion3 (named ion in slackbuilds.org)
browser: firefox
editor: vim (and sometimes joe)
office? no such thing
terminal: rxvt-unicode (urxvt)
shell: bash
I use KDE, but XFCE is nice as well. I administer 4 Linux machines and I run XFCE on one of them. I use konsole, vim (inside konsole itself), Bash, LibreOffice, Firefox, qBittorrent, Amarok and GIMP.
wm: fluxbox
browser: firefox (mainly for Pentadactyl)
editor: emacs
office: Latex inside Emacs for writing documents/presentations, gnumeric/LibreOffice for opening Excel spreadsheets etc.
terminal: uxterm (mainly for dabbrev-expand) together with GNU screen (for copy/paste, windows, session restore)
e-mail: UNIX-style setup: mutt as MUA, getmail as MRA, msmtp as MTA, procmail + cron as MDA, offlineimap for IMAP, notmuch for indexing
shell: bash for interactive shell, sh for scripting
> As a Vi user, nothing beats having Esc on the home row.
A symptom of why I have always detested emacs and vi. With ^D, ^C,
and ^\, Unix has more than enough mystery chords to learn. Emacs
and vi raised that number to a high power--an interface at least
as arcane and disorganized as the DD card in OS 360--baroque
efflorescences totally out of harmony with the spirit of Unix.
(Perhaps one could liken learning vi to learning how to finger
the flute, but the flute pays off with beautiful music. To put the
worst face on vi, it "pays off" only by promoting frantic tinkering.)
Apparently I've become more of a geek since my original reply to this.
awesome window manager
Midnight Commander as file browser
Mutt for email
Vim (not new for me, but I didn't mention it before)
Palemoon + Vimperator, though I've been bouncing around browsers a bit
I still use some graphical applications, like Amarok for music, and also some others that really can't be replaced by a terminal version, like photo editing and CAD. I haven't gone full geek yet.
I like having 2 options of apps for everything, based on the type of day I am needing or wanting.
Usually I'm in a tiling window manager with mostly terminal apps. Otherwise for the lazy days I'm in Plasma 5 with mostly KDE apps or web apps.
Productive Days
DE/WM: i3wm or herbstluftwm
Browser: Chromimum & Firefox
Mail: mutt
Term: urxvt
Text editor: nano
FM: ranger
News/rss: newsbeuter
Video: mpv
Audio: mpd+ncmpcpp
Lazy Days
DE/WM: Plasma 5
Browser: Chromimum & Firefox
Mail: Webmail
Term: Konsole
Test editor: Geany
FM: Dolphin
News/rss: feedreader online (web reader)
Video: mpv or vlc
Audio: mpd+ncmpcpp or qmmp
--- P.S. Good to see other i3wm users as well as another herbstluftwm user too!
Last edited by Livestradamus; 09-24-2016 at 05:02 AM.
wm: XFCE4, because I have stuff to do, no time to tweak or fix the wm.
browser: Seamonkey - fastes leanest and most secure one there (with noScript and ABP and few tweaks)
editor:I got mostly used to mc/mcedit, but know to survive in vi (and gvim), for vi has paste with middle click support, the mcedit lacks.
fm: Thunar, serves all i need
terminal: Xfce Terminal for rich paste options and still lean and swift.
login manager: LXDM - wish it would come shipped with Slackware...
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