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09-06-2009, 06:29 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2007
Distribution: Slackware64-current with KDE4Town.
Posts: 9,772
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What Is A "Bundled Cookie"?
As the title asks, just what is a "bundled cookie"?
When one "deletes private data" in both the Linux and Windows versions of Opera 10 (and the latest bug fix) it triggers the installation of a tracking cookie from www.kelkoo.com. The only way to get rid of it is to manually go in and delete it.
One person has referred to it as a "bundled cookie."
So far there has been nothing from "management" at Opera explaining this cookie and its purpose. A bug report has been made, but it was not removed from the latest release (bug fix).
Does this mean there are other cookies that users are not seeing? What are the ethics involved? Seems downright sleazy and unethical to me.

Thanks.
Last edited by cwizardone; 09-06-2009 at 06:48 AM.
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09-06-2009, 08:05 AM
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Moderator
Registered: May 2001
Posts: 29,417
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If you disable network access for Opera, then run Opera for the first time (or with a clean profile like 'opera -pd ~/.opera_testprofile') then close it, there is a bookmark for that site in bookmarks.adr. AFAIK the cookie jar does not contain a cookie for the site. So it could be that Opera tries to retrieve the favicon which could trigger the cookie getting set. A healthy dose of paranoia is commendable but if you want to talk devious behaviour it (in my book) comes nowhere the default Firefox behaviour of actively querying URI's when you click a bookmark entry once (like if you want to change properties)...
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09-06-2009, 08:53 AM
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Member
Registered: Oct 2007
Location: Norway
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
Posts: 446
Rep:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unSpawn
AFAIK the cookie jar does not contain a cookie for the site.
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Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar?
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09-06-2009, 09:07 AM
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Moderator
Registered: May 2001
Posts: 29,417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dinithion
Who stole the cookie from the cookie jar?
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'./make sense', not cookies? ;-p
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09-06-2009, 09:57 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2005
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
Posts: 3,482
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Quote:
the default Firefox behaviour of actively querying URI's when you click a bookmark entry once (like if you want to change properties)
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Is there a config option to prevent that behavior?
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09-11-2009, 09:53 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2007
Distribution: Slackware64-current with KDE4Town.
Posts: 9,772
Original Poster
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Just FYI, this problem turned out to be a "favicons" (whatever that is), in this case, kelkoo.com (a tracking site), setting a cookie.
I'm not sure exactly why "favicons" should be allowed to set cookies and I'm not sure of the ethics of doing such a thing, but, regardless, I have Opera set up to only accept cookies from the sites I visit and to delete them upon exit.
This was fixed in build #4609.
Last edited by cwizardone; 09-11-2009 at 09:55 AM.
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09-11-2009, 10:02 AM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: underground
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 7,594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
Is there a config option to prevent that behavior?
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There are several about :config entries that revolve around FF querying "safe sites", a.k.a. "vetting your search for you" which can be set to "disable".
Directly to the point: I am not *certain* that these entries affect bookmarks specifically, or how, if they do (like as UnSpawn suggests, querying the URI if you're simply changing bookmark properties -- which I don't like either).
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...efox-3-728014/
One or more of the provided links or posts at the above thread, shows you the about :config entries to prevent automatic vetting of your searches.
Until someone else can identify a means of disabling the URI queries on such actions as editing bookmark properties, I'd start by opening wireshark and seeing what happens when you edit a bookmark (purely informational, I know; it doesn't much help you turn off the behavior).
And FYI: "favicons" are the tiny icons that appear in your address-bar, or beside bookmark entries. The name comes from "Favorites + Icons"
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09-11-2009, 10:38 AM
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LQ Veteran
Registered: Feb 2007
Distribution: Slackware64-current with KDE4Town.
Posts: 9,772
Original Poster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GrapefruiTgirl
...And FYI: "favicons" are the tiny icons that appear in your address-bar, or beside bookmark entries. The name comes from "Favorites + Icons"
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Ah, so...
Thanks.

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09-11-2009, 12:38 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2005
Distribution: Slackware 14.1
Posts: 3,482
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Quote:
There are several about:config entries that revolve around FF querying "safe sites", a.k.a. "vetting your search for you" which can be set to "disable".
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Looks like I already have those configured. I'm sooooo paranoid as to how web browsers function....
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09-11-2009, 12:39 PM
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#10
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LQ Guru
Registered: Dec 2006
Location: underground
Distribution: Slackware64
Posts: 7,594
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
Looks like I already have those configured. I'm sooooo paranoid as to how web browsers function....
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I'm in the "generally paranoid" club
I'll be looking at those other aspects later on or "soon", and if I learn anything, I'll surely let you know.
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