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Old 03-09-2004, 12:23 PM   #1
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What can I remove? I donīt want KDE/Gnome but I want to run their programs

Hi everybody... I have read quite a few threads but none of them tell me exactly what I want to know.

I donīt use KDE or Gnome (I use fluxbox) but I do use programs that I am sure wonīt work without their libraries etc.

What parts of them are safe to remove with pkgtool??

Thanks for your time.

Old 03-09-2004, 07:18 PM   #2
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I had a similar wish. I installed the things I wanted, and then let swaret follow the
dependencies. This seems to work.

I ended up with so many things I didn't want that I changed my mind.

I then uninstalled all the gnome and kde things I'd installed. This took a lot longer than
installing them.

I'm running icewm as a window manager, firefox as a browser, and currently DFM as
a file manager on top of icewm. Everyone has his/her own needs and preferences, but
this works fine for me. I actually don't use many capabilities of DFM. I'm pretty much
console oriented except for a few things (graphics -- I use skencil, formerly sketch,
reading postscript (gv), reading pdf (acroread) ..., and open office when I really need
to communicate with someone MSwindows or Mac bound).


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Old 03-09-2004, 08:12 PM   #3
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To run any kde related program without installing kde can manually install qt,kdelibs and kdebase programs..(or in your case...remove anything else related to kde except those 3)
if its still failed to run kde-base programs..simply run "kedinit" (without the quote) in your terminal..then run the program again...
Old 03-10-2004, 12:24 AM   #4
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Yeah, for KDE you need just QT, kdebase and kdelibs, the addins, admin and utilties won't add a lot to the size. You need to know the full name of the KDE program to run it , though. What I used to do would be: under windowmaker or fluxbox run kpanel, which would give me access to the kde menu so you don't need to know the names of progs.
gnome packages are much harder to split up since gnome is very tightly integrated. the gnome progs are ligher than kde progs though.
I finally just weaned myself from all gnome and kde progs, though. I run on machines from 100-233MHz with sometimes as little as 16MB RAM. If you run KDE on something like that and click on the icon for Konqueror you wait about 30-45 yeconds to see the folder. Instead I use ROX-Filer which takes 2 seconds to show a folder!
There are many GTK progs out there that have heavy dependencies on gnome libs.
I am always looking for lightweight porgs that don't need any of gnome or kde. I prefer slackware 8.1 as it is lighter, but the 9.1 that I run uses only gtk+ and not gtk2 progs. the new libs are much larger and slower
Old 03-10-2004, 12:58 PM   #5
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Thanks guys... thats just the info I wanted to know for KDE ... its a bit of a shame about gnome...

I donīt think I really need to get rid of them but maby its just I like playing and also I like to keep things simple!

Maby I am just crazy. I am off to remove those parts of KDE anway.



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