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Old 01-18-2022, 11:33 AM   #61
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So, is there some reason I ought to get slackware
again when 15.0 comes out?
Well, your LQ profile's distro setting says "slackware," and not ubuntu. That ought to be a reason.
 
Old 01-18-2022, 01:25 PM   #62
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Well, your LQ profile's distro setting says "slackware," and not ubuntu. That ought to be a reason.
yea, I am trying to stick with slack, but ubuntu has worked
better for me, so it gets tough trying to give slack another go.
 
Old 01-18-2022, 01:32 PM   #63
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I will prepare Slint 15, based on Slackware 15. It could could take up to one month, with 1123 packages to take care of, plus enhancements of the installer and update of the documentation and the translations.
Okay, will try to give it a try. Thanks for the effort, and good luck.
 
Old 01-18-2022, 01:46 PM   #64
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Works just fine!

One caveat is, lilo cannot boot a f2fs partition. So, I have a small (200 meg) /boot partition formatted with ext4 and the rest of the SSD, the / and /home partitions, are f2fs.
Yea I also ran into that when doing a dry run of F2FS in a VM, having a separate /boot partition (non-F2FS) is not an issue as I already have that on my production machine.

Someone also posted issue with HDMI audio .....I dread delving into that, I mean - I do have my TV also connected to my video card, and at some point I would love to have audio too, especially now that I have solved the underscan/overscan issue , and the image on my tv is 99% identical - only thing I need to tweak is the color.

I would love to get audio, just so I can have that when say either watching a video, or playing a game - I have read the nvidia documentation and my eyes glazed over - and to further complicate matters, I want the output of the hdmi audio to match what my primary sound card does - so not only mirroring the video, but the audio as well, and I do not even know where to start on that one.........

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Old 01-18-2022, 03:47 PM   #65
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Am i an exception to have HDMI audio just work on XFCE4 on Slackware 14.2 (intel IGP HD2000) on my aging Fujutsu Lifebook 901 ?

I don't use it often, but quite surprisingly after twiddling for only a minute or so I manage to make it work every once in a while? Note: all work is done in GUI - via the pulse audio plugin, mixer and things like that.
 
Old 01-18-2022, 03:56 PM   #66
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Am i an exception to have HDMI audio just work on XFCE4 on Slackware 14.2 (intel IGP HD2000) on my aging Fujutsu Lifebook 901 ?

I don't use it often, but quite surprisingly after twiddling for only a minute or so I manage to make it work every once in a while? Note: all work is done in GUI - via the pulse audio plugin, mixer and things like that.
I think so, because every thread regarding audio ouput from hdmi from a GPU, involves getting down and dirty - and like I also stated, I couldn't even make it through significantly in the documentation from NVIDIA, brain decided "yea, fsck this I am not absorbing any of this..." .

If I go into my audio settings in MATE, it of course shows the audio source for my GPU, but its status is 'disabled', so yea I know I will have to screw around with asound and alsa settings but; not now of course, when I am fully migrated to 15.0, and my brain is ready for that bullshit to come.

-edit

Also how will this work now that Slackware has pipewire - another potential variable to consider in this equation.

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Old 01-18-2022, 08:06 PM   #67
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I just plug and play sound through HDMI.
I must admit that I do not remember what to do with genuine pulse (had to add the card in a file to be seen). I now use pipewire.
The machine is a laptop with nvidia and Bumblebee-nvidia stuff. Works with and without it active.
 
Old 01-18-2022, 08:41 PM   #68
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Plans are to install 15 on sda7, configure it so it's able to share all necessary data across all my other 4 various installations, keep 14.2 on sda1, change LILO so the default boot is 15 and then continue with my other personal Linux projects that keep me sane as a retired man.

Nearly there ...
 
Old 01-18-2022, 08:56 PM   #69
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i will install slack15 on quite a number of machines, one after the other - it's actually more an upgrade fiesta as they were anyway running slack14.2 or current for the last few years already :

home : on a Dell Optiplex 990 SFF, a Dell XPS 9370 laptop, a Dell Precision M6400 laptop

work : on two ASUS boxes and two headless Supermicro 7039A dual XEON 4216 workstations for number crunching

startup : on a dozen or so Linode VPS machines for high-CPU high-memory and GPU HPC, for shared work environment, for access and networking and for data storage

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Old 01-18-2022, 09:46 PM   #70
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Remain on -current. I may decide to do a fresh install though on this computer, it's been since around 2010 or earlier since I've done that.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 12:26 AM   #71
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I'll be wiping a number of interim and experimental installs (ext4 is just fine... xfs, jfs, and btrfs were not game changers for me) and updating some SBO packages and be glad I'm unlikely to exceed my fibre plan for a good while.
Both btrfs and zfs have something that I REALLY enjoy: subvolumes and snapshotting for filesystem level backups. btrfs for OS, and zfs for data, though i really only use that on my SOHO epyc server.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 03:47 AM   #72
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Am i an exception to have HDMI audio just work on XFCE4 on Slackware 14.2 (intel IGP HD2000) on my aging Fujutsu Lifebook 901 ?
Probably not. I know that quite a few users experience issues, but for me (Mate desktop), HDMI works just fine on both my laptops (Lenovo Ideapad U330p and HP Elitebook 820 G1) - as do bluetooth speakers and headset, headset to 3.5 mm jack, internal speakers. If I connect to HDMI, pulseaudio does not always switch to HDMI automatically, but that's easily done via the GUI.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 07:31 AM   #73
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I'm going to comment out the -current repo and uncomment the -15.0 repo and see how things go for a year or two.

More seriously, I think I'll do a nice fresh install of 15. I'm toying with the idea of replacing ext4 on top of LVM2 with one large btrfs with subvolumes. Still not quite sure, though a good opportunity.
 
Old 01-19-2022, 08:09 AM   #74
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I'm toying with the idea of replacing ext4 on top of LVM2 with one large btrfs with subvolumes. Still not quite sure, though a good opportunity.
As I consider proposing that in the Slint installer, but not right now by lack of practical experience, I will be glad for your feedback on this.

Some links in case you didn't come across them already:
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentati...ml#cha-snapper
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentati...rt-partitioner

Note: I think that openSUSE makes btrfs with subvolumes a default, and SUSE do contribute to the support of this file system, like for instance through this commit: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/cover.1...erba@suse.com/

btrfs support in Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs

the Anaconda installer (used by Fedora and others, to which at least one of the Slackware Alumni contribute...):
https://pythonrepo.com/repo/rhinstal...n-distribution
https://anaconda-installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

btrfs in Arch: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/btrfs
recent commit for the Archinstall installer: https://github.com/archlinux/archinstall/pull/787

Cheers,
Didier

PS and of course https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ

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Old 01-19-2022, 08:37 AM   #75
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I plan to remain on -current on all 3 machines where I have installed it.

From long ago until 14.2 I upgraded to the new release every time one was cut and that worked well for me. I never even looked at -current.
But that was no longer an option between 14.2 until now.

To decide whether to switch back to 15.0 I asked myself "is the long lag from 14.2 to 15.0 likely to be repeated or even exceeded for 15.0 to 15.+?" and the answer must be yes. As time goes by, linux software is becoming more complex, not less, integrating software packages into a distro is clearly becoming more difficult, and slackware aims for the highest possible stability at any cost in terms of time and effort. To me, the answer is clear.

Cheers and good luck to us all.
 
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