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Pithium 01-31-2022 01:28 PM

Ah yes, that pesky difference between Open Source and Free Software.

SCerovec 02-01-2022 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty (Post 6323825)
I was just asking myself, " I Wonder why Pat never included rEFInd" and now I know why.

Maybe it's time we lend a hand and streamline the build process for our BDFL?

zeebra 02-01-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SCerovec (Post 6324018)
Maybe it's time we lend a hand and streamline the build process for our BDFL?

By all means, if people who use Slackware have useful competence, then why not partake in and help organize some important free software projects in general, and hope that if they are useful can be included in Slackware among other distroes.

I kind of miss this a bit in the GNU/Linux community, some user groups that can assert some influence and pressure on some free software projects, and even partake with competence and resources. I can think of an example of this being Konqueror. Yes, I could do it, but apparently I'm too incompetent even to organize something like that :(

With a push and some effort, Konqueror could be a lightweight and viable alternative to Firefox for those who use KDE. I guess all that would be needed is some (enough) people to push for it, some people to do some simple (programming) tasks and some people that could perhaps add some resources to the effort. There are many projects out there that could do with a bit of extra passion and love.

marav 02-01-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by volkerdi (Post 6311246)
Caol Ila 18 is probably my favorite. Never tried the 12. Hardly see anyone mention Knockando, but that was my first single malt. Still have a bottle of that distilled in 1986.

Got it!
Thanks for the advice :D

khronosschoty 02-01-2022 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by zeebra (Post 6324066)
By all means, if people who use Slackware have useful competence, then why not partake in and help organize some important free software projects in general, and hope that if they are useful can be included in Slackware among other distroes.

I kind of miss this a bit in the GNU/Linux community, some user groups that can assert some influence and pressure on some free software projects, and even partake with competence and resources. I can think of an example of this being Konqueror. Yes, I could do it, but apparently I'm too incompetent even to organize something like that :(

With a push and some effort, Konqueror could be a lightweight and viable alternative to Firefox for those who use KDE. I guess all that would be needed is some (enough) people to push for it, some people to do some simple (programming) tasks and some people that could perhaps add some resources to the effort. There are many projects out there that could do with a bit of extra passion and love.

From my point of view, Konqueror kind of gave birth to modern web browsers. Its unfortunate that what it gave birth to, was inferior (to itself) and devolutionary -- ironic.

zeebra 02-01-2022 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty (Post 6324092)
From my point of view, Konqueror kind of gave birth to modern web browsers. Its unfortunate that what it gave birth to, was inferior (to itself) and devolutionary -- ironic.

This is why we need groups! Some projects really need some passion and love, and Konqueror is one of them. It wouldn't take much to turn it from good to great, just a concerted effort.

It's just a good example of such projects, there are many.

If "outsiders" join forces, there are ways to infuse such projects with a bit of passion and love and support.

SCerovec 02-01-2022 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by zeebra (Post 6324066)
By all means, if people who use Slackware have useful competence, then why not partake in and help organize some important free software projects in general, and hope that if they are useful can be included in Slackware among other distroes.

I kind of miss this a bit in the GNU/Linux community, some user groups that can assert some influence and pressure on some free software projects, and even partake with competence and resources. I can think of an example of this being Konqueror. Yes, I could do it, but apparently I'm too incompetent even to organize something like that :(

With a push and some effort, Konqueror could be a lightweight and viable alternative to Firefox for those who use KDE. I guess all that would be needed is some (enough) people to push for it, some people to do some simple (programming) tasks and some people that could perhaps add some resources to the effort. There are many projects out there that could do with a bit of extra passion and love.

Did You try the Falkon browser yet?

zeebra 02-01-2022 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SCerovec (Post 6324265)
Did You try the Falkon browser yet?

No, I haven't actually. I've heard about it and looked into it, but for some reason I was not interested at the time. I think it had something to do with being against the idea of a replacement for Konqueror.

So, the question really is, how good is it? Because at this point, those functions that Konqueror have/had, many of them don't work since the switch to QT Webengine.

I should probably give it a try yes ;)

Edit. Ok I see it is actually available in Slackware15rc3, so I will give it a try!

Edit2. After looking at all the settings, it's sadly lacking the ability to filter javascript. It's an either/or, on/off, while it has whitelists and blacklists for cookies, which is good. Konqueror has the ability to choose what javascript to allow, or alternatively block, and although it is less convenient than noscript, it's there and it works. I don't think I can use a browser where you automatically accept all javascript, or a browser without javascript. That's the main issue I see for me. Manually whitelisting javascript like I do in Konqueror is also not at all convenient, you have to go into multiple overlay menues, then do it, and click ok/apply a couple of times (each time!).

glennmcc 02-01-2022 11:39 PM

Gave Falkon a try and here are my thoughts...

It's pretty-much the same as firefox but video download helper
which the most-used addon I have for firefox is not available for falkon.

Also, even-tho it has adblock included and enabled,
on the very first site I visited several adverts got thru it and
opened advert tabs.

So did the second and the third.

Falkon is now removed from my system.

volkerdi 02-02-2022 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by marav (Post 6324091)
Got it!
Thanks for the advice :D

Oh, I'm jealous ;-) Lately for me it's Black Label sweetened with a splash of Lagavulin 8. But my taste in Scotch has cheapened, just like my taste in beer.

glennmcc 02-02-2022 01:57 PM

Mr. Volkerding,

Q: Did you end-up falling asleep at your terminal during the wee-hours of this morning ?

Yes, we _do_ indeed read those little notes you put in. ;-)

gauchao 02-02-2022 05:26 PM

@slac-in-the-box

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I live on two-hundred acres of Oregon forested hills and grassy valleys, with a river running through it. It is an event venue with: wifi, outdoor covered kitchen with 8 burner tops and two ovens, three outdoor showers, 8 portable toilets, a covered stage, rideable horses, and enough campsites to host up to 1,500 guests. There's space to be as intimate or separate as individuals desire.

You're all invited!
Thank you so much. Must be amazing. I am just worried about the trail... ;)

Ser Olmy 02-02-2022 06:37 PM

When Slackware 15.0 is released, I'll have to seriously consider upgrading a number of servers running Slackware 14.2 and acting as Samba AD Domain Controllers to something more recent. Unfortunately, Slackware 15 just will not work, so I have to decide what I'm going to replace it with.

As for non-DC member servers, I could probably go with Slackware 15, but I'm not sure it make sense to run two different distributions in the same network. A uniform environment makes patching and testing a lot easier.

Routers, firewalls, monitoring servers ... I haven't decided yet. Again, Slackware 15 should work fine, but if I have to start reading up on the inner workings of a new distribution anyway, and if it should turn out that the other distribution scales down as well as Slackware does, it's tempting to switch everything over.

Sorry if come across as a bit of a Debbie Downer, but that's just the (-)current state of affairs. I don't like it either.

SupeRux 02-02-2022 07:20 PM

I may wait a day, maybe, then update to 15 and update all that 32bit stuff so GSM Valheim server runs, then install Zabbix.

slackjeff 02-02-2022 08:23 PM

Keep only stable 15 on my machine. and create news SBOs


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