wayland hits -current

bartgymnast · 02-20-2020, 01:45 AM

it seems wayland hits -current

Code:

x/mesa-20.0.0-x86_64-1.txz:  Upgraded.
  Added Wayland platform support.
x/wayland-1.18.0-x86_64-1.txz:  Added.
x/wayland-protocols-1.18-noarch-1.txz:  Added.
x/xorg-server-1.20.7-x86_64-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
x/xorg-server-xephyr-1.20.7-x86_64-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
x/xorg-server-xnest-1.20.7-x86_64-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
x/xorg-server-xvfb-1.20.7-x86_64-2.txz:  Rebuilt.
x/xorg-server-xwayland-1.20.7-x86_64-2.txz:  Added.

can gtk+3 be recompiled with the following option to be aware of wayland

Code:

--enable-wayland-backend \

willysr · 02-20-2020, 06:33 AM

I think the parameter should be

Code:

-Dwayland_backend=true

chrisVV · 02-20-2020, 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willysr

I think the parameter should be

Code:

-Dwayland_backend=true

The gtk authors recommend using autoconf for gtk+3, and meson for gtk-4.

willysr · 02-20-2020, 07:16 AM

i'm just looking based on gtk+3 SlackBuild script where Patrick used meson

Alien Bob · 02-20-2020, 08:36 AM

Also, qt5 needs a recompile to pick up the wayland functionality.

Lockywolf · 02-20-2020, 09:28 AM

What's the scope of Wayland in Slackware?

Is Slackware going to eventually have Xorg replaced by Wayland?

garpu · 02-20-2020, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lockywolf

What's the scope of Wayland in Slackware?

Is Slackware going to eventually have Xorg replaced by Wayland?

Curious about this, as well. I don't think it'll be replaced, since there's xorg-server and xorg-wayland-server, and there are too many Nvidia users out there. I would be surprised if X gets dropped entirely.

sevendogsbsd · 02-20-2020, 10:17 AM

Not a Slackware specific comment, but everything I have read is that Wayland is a very immature project and is not even remotely ready to replace xorg any time soon. For my desktop, I could care less what the graphics server is as long as it works, and xorg works perfectly for me for now.

vtel57 · 02-20-2020, 10:20 AM

Yeah, you're old like me, @sevendogsbsd. We don't care much for change. I'm in agreement with you that xorg is fine and dandy.

Alien Bob · 02-20-2020, 12:52 PM

Having wayland in the core distro and having stuff like mesa, xorg-server, qt5, gtk+3 compiled against wayland enables all kind of future experiments after Slackware gets a stable 15.0 release.
Otherwise, anyone who would want to add some wayland-related functionality to the stable 15.0 distro would have to recompile and maintain own versions of all these core packages.
Wayland and X.Org are complementary - but a Wayland session can run X.Org based applications seamlessly. Now we can start experimenting at leisure and see what's possible.

Alien Bob · 02-20-2020, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd

everything I have read is that Wayland is a very immature project and is not even remotely ready to replace xorg any time soon

Care to share where you read stuff like that, in the past two years?

USUARIONUEVO · 02-20-2020, 01:07 PM

wayland can be interesting if , "for some reason" , de desktop non start , yes, i know , we have x11 , but advantage of wayland is he can run gui apps , like desktop enviroment.

probably some one under low specifications hardware , prefer run wayland for save some memory and cpu ...raspberry´s or similar hardware ,and of course, is better if core have packages built with suporting this "optional" feature , same like pure alsa , for people no like pulse.

sevendogsbsd · 02-20-2020, 01:14 PM

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pa...ault-20.04-LTS

https://drewdevault.com/2019/02/10/W...-debunked.html

And not Linux but here it goes anyway: https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/w...freebsd.73857/

It is my understanding that apps must be written to work under Wayland but I may be misunderstanding that. I have probably gone out on a limb posting but it wouldn't be the first time...

garpu · 02-20-2020, 01:20 PM

AFAIK, it's a bit out of date. Other distros are shipping Wayland by default, and I haven't heard that about the apps needing to be written to work specifically with Wayland. Phoronix, take with a hefty grain of salt.

It'll be interesting to see what happens in the next 6-8 months.

sevendogsbsd · 02-20-2020, 01:29 PM

For me, I guess I really don't care about Wayland, thus my remarks. It does nothing for me that xorg doesn't do already. Not saying progress is bad, and I know xorg is very old and not the the greatest solution for a PC desktop but it works. If everything I use worked with Wayland the way it works with xorg, I would switch but I don't think that is the case.