Waiting for the big surprise

ReaperX7 · 01-28-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

I just cleaned my crystal ball and she said in a loud voice:

Mate!

Was that loud and demanding or loud and sultry?

pcninja · 01-28-2015, 10:40 AM

Before my laptop (which is my secondary backup computer) eletectricutes me to a crisp, I will say MATE is an okay Desktop Environment. MATE still fells like GNOME to me and although GNOME 2 is 10000% better than GNOME3, I still didn't like it.

Didier Spaier · 01-28-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ReaperX7

Was that loud and demanding or loud and sultry?

Just loud. Oh, and in case you wonder: I will stay a Fluxbox user. Maybe I'll try a tiling windows manager when I'm done with other stuff, but I don't need a desktop.

kevison · 01-29-2015, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by willysr

http://slackware.org.uk/msb/MSB_SLACKPKG+

thx! Followed the directions in the doc, but running slackpkg install-new didn't give me anything new to install. slackpkg upgrade-all however did install what looked like Mate related dependencies. When I run xwmconfig nothing shows up to indicate Mate or gnome... am I missing something ?

brianL · 01-29-2015, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier

I just cleaned my crystal ball and she said in a loud voice:

Mate!

U WOT M8?
(as we say in Oldham)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=U+Wot+M8

bassmadrigal · 01-29-2015, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kevison

thx! Followed the directions in the doc, but running slackpkg install-new didn't give me anything new to install. slackpkg upgrade-all however did install what looked like Mate related dependencies. When I run xwmconfig nothing shows up to indicate Maate or gnome... am I missing something ?

I'm guessing you're missing slackpkg+. It is an extension of slackpkg that allows you to add additional repositories. If you don't have it, it probably won't work. Get it at:

http://slakfinder.org/slackpkg+.html

And read more on it from http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/intr...-repositories/

kevison · 01-29-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal

I'm guessing you're missing slackpkg+. It is an extension of slackpkg that allows you to add additional repositories. If you don't have it, it probably won't work. Get it at:

http://slakfinder.org/slackpkg+.html

And read more on it from http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/intr...-repositories/

If you read any of my earlier messages, I mention that I do have slackpkg+ installed....

kikinovak · 01-29-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kevison

If you read any of my earlier messages, I mention that I do have slackpkg+ installed....

Post your /etc/slackpkg/slackpkgplus.conf.

bassmadrigal · 01-29-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kevison

If you read any of my earlier messages, I mention that I do have slackpkg+ installed....

Sorry, this is a 4 page thread. I don't have time to look at all the posts someone makes before providing a response. I responded based on what you had written in that post. As Niki suggested, post the contents of your /etc/slackpkg/slackpkgplus.conf file so we can try and figure out what's happening.

kevison · 01-30-2015, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal

Sorry, this is a 4 page thread. I don't have time to look at all the posts someone makes before providing a response. I responded based on what you had written in that post. As Niki suggested, post the contents of your /etc/slackpkg/slackpkgplus.conf file so we can try and figure out what's happening.

heh reading my own post I come off a little snappy... sorry Bass. Going live with software and database schemas at work and I have a reluctant people manager (and absent) for a software manager So its been an exceedingly frustrating week....

kevison · 01-30-2015, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kikinovak

Post your /etc/slackpkg/slackpkgplus.conf.

This is my config:

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# Configuration for slackpkg+. See /usr/doc/slackpkg+-*/README for more details

# Enable (on) / Disable (off) slackpkg+
SLACKPKGPLUS=on

# set to '0' to never show the download progress bar
# set to '1' to show the bar only in download packages (default)
# set to '2' to always show the download bar
# set to '3' for a debug mode
VERBOSE=1

# By default slackpkg+ deny to install 32bit packages.
# Set this flag to 'on' allow slackpkg+ to install 32bit packages on a 64bit slackware
# installation (possibly unsafe). Please, do not install both 32 and 64bit of the same
# package to avoid problems, and NEVER upgrade exitant 64bit packages with relative 32bit package.
# Do not forget to install the multilibs.
ALLOW32BIT=off

# Enable (1) / Disable (0) the official slackpkg blacklist. May be useful to temporarily skip
# the slackware blacklist. You can also override it from command line:
# 'USEBL=0 slackpkg upgrade-all'
USEBL=1

# Add custom option to 'wget'.
# You can solve the repository indisponibility issue by set a timeout here
WGETOPTS="--timeout=20 --tries=2"

# Enable (on) / Disable (off) notification events (see notifymsg.conf)
#ENABLENOTIFY=off

# Enable (on) / Disable (off) the greylist feature. See /etc/slackpkg/greylist
GREYLIST=on

# If two or more repositories contains some same packages, you can specify
# from which repository you prefer to search it.
# The syntax is "<repository_name>:<package_name>"
# Accepts regular expressions. To give priority to an entire repository use "<repository_name>"

# Examples:
#PKGS_PRIORITY=( restricted:vlc )
#PKGS_PRIORITY=( myrepo )
#
# If you want a multilib system, uncomment the multilib repository and set:
#PKGS_PRIORITY=( multilib )
#
# (Use /usr/doc/slackpkg+-*/setupmultilib.sh to setup a multilib configuration)

# List repositories you want to use (defined below)
# remember to launch 'slackpkg update' if you modify that row.
REPOPLUS=( slackpkgplus restricted alienbob slacky msb )

# Define mirrors (uncomment one or more mirror; remember to add it to REPOPLUS)
# GPG Note: after adding a repository, you must to run 'slackpkg update gpg'
# some repositories as salixos or slackel, have a partial GPG support;
# for that repositories you may need to run slackpkg with 'slackpkg -checkgpg=off ...'

# Slackware 14.1 - x86_64
#MIRRORPLUS['multilib']=http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/multilib/14.1/
MIRRORPLUS['alienbob']=http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/sbrepos/14.1/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['restricted']=http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/restricted_sbrepos/14.1/x86_64/
MIRRORPLUS['slacky']=http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware64-14.1/
MIRRORPLUS['msb']=http://slackware.org.uk/msb/14.1/1.8/x86_64/

# use this to keep the slackpkg+ package updated
MIRRORPLUS['slackpkgplus']=http://slakfinder.org/slackpkg+/

# Slackware current - x86_64
#MIRRORPLUS['multilib']=http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/multilib/current/

# Local repository:
#MIRRORPLUS['alienbob']=file://repositories/alien/sbrepos/14.1/x86/
#
# Local packages (you do not need metadata nor 'slackpkg update' command):
#MIRRORPLUS['myrepo']=dir://repositories/mypackages/

#
# Supported Repositories (see /usr/doc/slackpkg+-* for details and notes):
#

#Supports GPG
#slackpkgplus: http://slakfinder.org/slackpkg+/
#multilib: http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/multilib/{13.37,14.0,14.1,current}/
#alienbob: http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/sbrepos/{13.37,14.0,14.1,current}/{x86,x86_64}/
#ktown: http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/alien-kde/{13.37,14.0,14.1,current}/{latest,testing}/{x86,x86_64}/
#restricted: http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/restricted_sbrepos/{13.37,14.0,14.1,current}/{x86,x86_64}/
#slacky: http://repository.slacky.eu/slackware{,64}-{13.37,14.0,14.1}/
#mled-desktop: http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/desktop--14.1-{32,64}bit/
#mled-extras: http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/extras-14.1-{32,64}bit/
#mles: http://www.microlinux.fr/slackware/server-{14.0,14.1}-{32,64}bit/
#msb: http://slackware.org.uk/msb/{14.0,14.1}/{1.6,1.8}/{x86,x86_64}/
#slackers: http://www.slackers.it/repository/
#slacke17: http://ngc891.blogdns.net/pub/slacke17/slackware{,64,arm}-{14.0,14.1}/
#studioware: http://studioware.org/files/packages/slackware{,64}-{13.37,14.0,14.1}/
#slackonly: http://slackonly.com/pub/packages/14.1-{x86,x86_64}/
#rlworkman: http://rlworkman.net/pkgs/{13.37,14.0,14.1}/
#
#Does NOT support GPG
#salixos(*): http://download.salixos.org/{i486,x86_64}/{13.37,14.0,14.1}/
#slackel(*): http://www.slackel.gr/repo/{i486,x86_64}/current/

Darth Vader · 01-30-2015, 05:10 AM

Serious thinking on topic (that seems to be The Big Surprise not MATE), my bet that it will be the KDE4 upgrading to latest stable release, aka 4.14.3...

As for the MATE hoppers, I will see strange the importing the MATE in the Slackware tree without a good long stage in /testing. Also, I believe to be too late for importing MATE in the slackware-current, as maybe the next release will be in several months.

And, if we talk about GNOME and derivates returning to official Slackware tree, why to ship MATE? Right now XFCE is closer to a GNOME2 experience and if there will be GNOME, why not the latest GNOME3?

Come on, it's like abandoning KDE4 in favor of Trinity! I say that even I believe to be (still) a KDE3 fan...

kevison · 01-30-2015, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth Vader

Serious thinking on topic (that seems to be The Big Surprise not MATE), my bet that it will be the KDE4 upgrading to latest stable release, aka 4.14.3...

As for the MATE hoppers, I will see strange the importing the MATE in the Slackware tree without a good long stage in /testing. Also, I believe to be too late for importing MATE in the slackware-current, as maybe the next release will be in several months.

And, if we talk about GNOME and derivates returning to official Slackware tree, why to ship MATE? Right now XFCE is closer to a GNOME2 experience and if there will be GNOME, why not the latest GNOME3?

Come on, it's like abandoning KDE4 in favor of Trinity! I say that even I believe to be (still) a KDE3 fan...

I like KDE, don't really use it, but its nice. These days I generally use either xfce or Enlightenment. Sometimes I might dive into Fluxbox. A long time ago I used WindowMaker or BlackBox. I never used Mate or gnome. So Im a little curious about both. Back quite a few years ago gnome could also be integrated with Enlightenment and added some nice eye candy but I didn't use it then either.

As to Gnome3 I read a lot of mixed feelings on it.

kikinovak · 01-30-2015, 06:47 AM

@kevison: mixing so many different third-party repositories is asking for trouble. YMMV.

kevison · 01-30-2015, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kikinovak

@kevison: mixing so many different third-party repositories is asking for trouble. YMMV.

One of the many reasons I test things on a VM

before I install on my boxes... by the way what is YMMV? so... things look ok? other than the 3rd party repos? I will comment out everything but slackpkgplus and msb. Do I need to do slackpkg install Mate ?