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Old 12-16-2018, 09:20 AM   #76
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So, I have to admit, after first installing Vivaldi, going through the NUMEROUS configuration options, not arriving at something I felt happy with, uninstalling Vivaldi, reinstalling Vivaldi today, going through the configuration options AGAIN, I think I have arrived at something I actually like and can use, and might even supplant Firefox.

I don't really care for much in the way of toolbars and tabs, so here's my setup:
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Old 12-16-2018, 09:31 AM   #77
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So, I have to admit, after first installing Vivaldi, going through the NUMEROUS configuration options, not arriving at something I felt happy with, uninstalling Vivaldi, going through the configuration options AGAIN, I think I have arrived at something I actually like and can use, and might even supplant Firefox.

I don't really care for much in the way of toolbars and tabs, so here's my setup:
That's pretty skimmed down! Good that it works for you, straightforward, clean and functional.

Vivaldi has so many configuration options that one can spend a long time 'ricing' it - too long, sometimes. It's the paradox of choice. I could never get mine to look completely how I wanted since I have my taskbar at the top, I even changed the taskbar button icon to a monochrome one. However, the missing piece of the puzzle was when I found it was the Xfce panel shadow that was making things look a bit off, not anything in Vivaldi. When I removed the shadow, everything fell into place. So this is mine, which I'm totally happy with. I've also adopted solarfield's idea of putting the Slackware desktop background into the window background image - it's very subtle so you can't really tell, but I know it's there
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Old 12-16-2018, 02:36 PM   #78
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I have grown to like Vivaldi, mainly just because it allows me to use the Chrome extensions I like (uBlock Origin and Vimium) while not being made by Google. I can't say I necessarily understand the need some people have to endlessly tweak the look and behavior their browser, though, but maybe that's because I missed out on the original Opera.
 
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Old 12-16-2018, 06:42 PM   #79
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I can't say I necessarily understand the need some people have to endlessly tweak the look and behavior their browser, though, but maybe that's because I missed out on the original Opera.
Endlessly isn't the right word here. It takes me about 5 minutes to tweak the look and behaviour of Vivaldi and that's the end of my tweaking.
 
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:18 PM   #80
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Helpfully, because I set up syncing in Vivaldi, getting up and running in another *ahem* UNIX variant was a snap. I like the Vivaldi syncing feature better than the Firefox syncing feature; it more completely brings in your particular settings than Firefox does. This is a big WIN for me.
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Old 12-16-2018, 07:57 PM   #81
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My recent foray into playing around updating older Slackware versions install images has convinced me web browsers are becoming an extremely critical issue driving software requirements and only increased my growing preference for Vivaldi. Coming from IBMs OS/2 my very first browsers were Gopher, Mosaic and IBM's own Web Explorer and the introduction of Netscape has kept me with Mozilla ever since. It was simply head and shoulders above all of the rest. After so many years with the Mozilla Way, I'm pretty dug in and recent changes in Firefox cause me to sadly want out, and it's looking like Vivaldi might actually be that saving grace.
 
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Old 12-16-2018, 08:11 PM   #82
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After so many years with the Mozilla Way, I'm pretty dug in and recent changes in Firefox cause me to sadly want out, and it's looking like Vivaldi might actually be that saving grace.
This is pretty much where I am at. I've been a loyal Firefox user since the beginning (well, before, if you count Netscape and Mosaic). On the Mac, I've been primarily using Safari (which is actually a really good browser, but the plug-ins suck) in favor of Firefox, lately. Now with Vivaldi, it looks like I'll be making a multi-OS switch from Firefox.
 
Old 12-16-2018, 08:27 PM   #83
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When the statistics are gathered is Vivaldi separate out as a unique browser or are all the chrome clones lumped together and counted as being chrome.
 
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When the statistics are gathered is Vivaldi separate out as a unique browser or are all the chrome clones lumped together and counted as being chrome.
Well, clone isn't the right term. It is based on Chrome's/Chromium's Blink web engine, but I wouldn't say that makes it Chrome. I do wish there were more alternative web engines, but developing and maintaining one is a huge undertaking and not worthwhile for most projects/organizations (even Microsoft, now).

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Old 12-16-2018, 10:34 PM   #85
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Well, clone isn't the right term. It is based on Chrome's/Chromium's Blink web engine, but I wouldn't say that makes it Chrome......
For all practical purposes that is exactly what it is, a clone, and most web sites see it as chrome.
 
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Lysander666,

are you using Vivaldi on Slackware 14.2? If so, you may have issues with fonts, same as I used to have with Chrome:
https://slackalaxy.com/2017/08/22/chrome-broken-fonts/

It has something to do with Freetype version, because on -current it is just fine. The fix I found for Chrome works just fine for Vivaldi, putting the following in the beginning of /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi

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export FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=35"
Ruari, messing with /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi like this is not harmful, right? Is there a smarter way?

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Old 12-17-2018, 03:44 AM   #87
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Helpfully, because I set up syncing in Vivaldi, getting up and running in another *ahem* UNIX variant was a snap. I like the Vivaldi syncing feature better than the Firefox syncing feature; it more completely brings in your particular settings than Firefox does. This is a big WIN for me.
This looks great, but how do you function with no tabs? Or do you have separate windows for each page like in the old days?

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Lysander666,

are you using Vivaldi on Slackware 14.2? If so, you may have issues with fonts, same as I used to have with Chrome:
https://slackalaxy.com/2017/08/22/chrome-broken-fonts/

It has something to do with Freetype version, because on -current it is just fine. The fix I found for Chrome works just fine for Vivaldi, putting the following in the beginning of /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi

Code:
export FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="truetype:interpreter-version=35"
Ruari, messing with /opt/vivaldi/vivaldi like this is not harmful, right? Is there a smarter way?
Well, fonts look great to me on 14.2, but that's probably because I use infinality as standard with each Slackware install.
 
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Old 12-17-2018, 06:35 AM   #88
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This looks great, but how do you function with no tabs? Or do you have separate windows for each page like in the old days?
The tabs are there, just not outwardly visible. Ctrl+T to add tabs, Ctrl+Tab to navigate between them, Ctrl+W to close them.

Actually, what I would like is to see only the tabs, and nothing else (no address bar, etc.), but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

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For all practical purposes that is exactly what it is, a clone, and most web sites see it as chrome.
A clone, in software terms, would normally be something that is not the same, but is designed to look and behave the same. Vivaldi is kind of the opposite of a clone in that sense, because it is Chrome (under the hood) but is designed to look and behave differently.

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Old 12-19-2018, 09:50 AM   #90
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Just a me too and another $0.02 here ...

I've been running Vivaldi built via ruario's `latest-vivaldi.sh` script ( very nice work ! Thanks ruario !! )

I have to say I am sold on Vivaldi -- I've not run PaleMoon at all since Lysander666 opened this thread and I saw the positive feedback.

Thanks for the great discussion all'Y'all !

-- kjh
 
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