[SOLVED] Vivaldi browser: Preferred installation method

arodlinux · 05-18-2017, 03:58 PM

Thanks Ztcoracat!

Even thought the SlackBuild script will not "communicate" with SlackBuilds.org website the scripts by ruario have the option, if you enable it, to update the browser automatically. Following this instructions: https://gist.github.com/ruario/b5aca855f2d05ba14836 .I still prefer SBo.

Ztcoracat · 05-18-2017, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arodlinux

Thanks Ztcoracat!

Even thought the SlackBuild script will not "communicate" with SlackBuilds.org website the scripts by ruario have the option, if you enable it, to update the browser automatically. Following this instructions: https://gist.github.com/ruario/b5aca855f2d05ba14836 .I still prefer SBo.

You're Welcome-

Enjoy your new browser and don't forget to mark your thread SOLVED.

ruario · 11-28-2017, 01:25 PM

In two minds about reviving this thread but, what the hell. Here is another option for those who want a Slackware package

https://gist.github.com/ruario/dcbba...cc883542ff7ace

It can also create a Slackware package for the snapshots. The next two of which are likely to be kind of interesting to those of you that use Vivaldi regularly.

Ztcoracat · 11-28-2017, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario

In two minds about reviving this thread but, what the hell. Here is another option for those who want a Slackware package

https://gist.github.com/ruario/dcbba...cc883542ff7ace

It can also create a Slackware package for the snapshots. The next two of which are likely to be kind of interesting to those of you that use Vivaldi regularly.

Thanks

ruario · 11-29-2017, 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario

It can also create a Slackware package for the snapshots. The next two of which are likely to be kind of interesting to those of you that use Vivaldi regularly.

The first one is out. If you were waiting for sync, we now have sync

https://vivaldi.com/blog/snapshots/help-test-sync/

If youw ant to try it you can fetch and package it with:

Code:

$ VIVALDI_STREAM=snapshot ./latest-vivaldi.sh

It will install alongside Vivaldi stable and maintains its own settings/profile

Ztcoracat · 11-29-2017, 03:40 PM

I just installed it:-

Code:

Executing install script for vivaldi-stable-1.13.1008.32-x86_64-1ro.tgz.
Package vivaldi-stable-1.13.1008.32-x86_64-1ro.tgz installed.

I'll launch it in a few min's.

Ztcoracat · 11-29-2017, 04:22 PM

ruario

It's a really nice browser. Thanks again!

igadoter · 11-30-2017, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by askfor

From RPM. I have downloaded Vivaldi RPM, converted to .tgz with rpm2tgz and installed. Works. I am always trying RPM first for two reasons. 1) because I am lazy and 2) I have started with Red Hat back in 1999, so I know where to find them. It often works for newer packages, older ones can be a problem.

I have installed Opera and Open Office that way, among other things.

What system are you running? How do you resolve dependencies? Manually?

Edit: Ok I am removing my question, I've just downloaded official rpm package from www.vivaldi.com, I installed it, after conversion to txz. It works at this moment, and quite fast.

Edit: But really I can't use it. The amount of data it loads is so huge, after one day browsing I would probably exhaust all my network transfer data limit.

ruario · 11-30-2017, 05:14 AM

But… but… but… You could just run my script (first item in my signature) and it would download and convert the .deb and make you a decent package or use the Slackbuild on SBo (just update the version number).

If you convert it with rpm2tgz, you will end up with a pointless† cron job in ./etc/cron.daily, you will have no proper icon associated with your .desktop file and you may get wrong file ownership (unless you remember to run rpm2tgz as root or with fakeroot).

Really you should avoid generic tools like rpm2tgz for all but simple packages when there is no alternative (and personally I would say that a quick hand repack is always an alternative and not a lot slower, especially for simple packages). Also, in this case there are good alternatives.

So why use rpm2tgz‽ I don't get it?

† It is not pointless on rpm systems but is very redundant on Slackware

ruario · 11-30-2017, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igadoter

The amount of data it loads is so huge, after one day browsing I would probably exhaust all my network transfer data limit.

What are you talking about? I do not believe we load any more data over the network than any other (graphical) browser. Use wireshark and you can confirm this for yourself.

igadoter · 11-30-2017, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario

What are you talking about? I do not believe we load any more data over the network than any other (graphical) browser. Use wireshark and you can confirm this for yourself.

The property of Vivaldi I like is it shows amount of data transfer. Short visit of one website cost me about at least 20 MB of data. This is why I like so much lynx.

ruario · 11-30-2017, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igadoter

This is why I like so much lynx.

Well, fair enough… indeed I don't think we can compete with lynx for low data usage!

igadoter · 11-30-2017, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario

But… but… but… You could just run my script (first item in my signature) and it would download and convert the .deb and make you a decent package or use the Slackbuild on SBo (just update the version number).

If you convert it with rpm2tgz, you will end up with a pointless† cron job in ./etc/cron.daily, you will have no proper icon associated with your .desktop file and you may get wrong file ownership (unless you remember to run rpm2tgz as root or with fakeroot).

Really you should avoid generic tools like rpm2tgz for all but simple packages when there is no alternative (and personally I would say that a quick hand repack is always an alternative and not a lot slower, especially for simple packages). Also, in this case there are good alternatives.

So why use rpm2tgz‽ I don't get it?

† It is not pointless on rpm systems but is very redundant on Slackware

Thanks for these hints. Usually I don't run any rpm or deb packages. I am satisfied with SBo packages or I recompile software myself. I was only curious about Vivaldi and how the procedure of conversion works, yes I used rpm2txz.

Edit:

Quote:

you will end up with a pointless† cron job in ./etc/cron.daily,

you mean this

Code:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 piotr users 16740 Nov 21 14:55 /etc/cron.daily/vivaldi

?

Code:

#!/bin/sh
#
# Copyright (c) 2009 The Chromium Authors. All rights reserved.
# Use of this source code is governed by a BSD-style license that can be
# found in the LICENSE file.
#
# This script is part of the vivaldi package.
#
# It creates the repository configuration file for package updates, since
# we cannot do this during the vivaldi installation since the repository
# is locked.
#
# This functionality can be controlled by creating the $DEFAULTS_FILE and
# setting "repo_add_once" to "true" or "false" as desired. An empty
# $DEFAULTS_FILE is the same as setting the value to "false".

thanks for pointing this to me. I've just made it non-executable.

ruario · 11-30-2017, 10:39 AM

yeah if you intend to keep Vivaldi around I would remove the package you have from rpm2tgz and install from my repack script.

Gerard Lally · 12-01-2017, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario

But… but… but… You could just run my script (first item in my signature) and it would download and convert the .deb and make you a decent package or use the Slackbuild on SBo (just update the version number).

Good work Ruarí. Very happy to see this available for Slackware.