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Old 05-09-2017, 08:55 PM   #1
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unstable system after using slackpkg current


I did a fresh install of slackware 14.2 and decided to try the current branch, i have been experiencing some issues that i can not fix on my own, some of the issues are
1. The day before yesterday i ran a virus scan in the morning it took 45 min, yesterday i ran the same scan but it hadnt finish after 5hrs so i had to cancel it
2. I received a message that irq19 had been disabled or shutdown, i found out that irq is tied to my network card, all i did was change from network manager to dchp and it seems tofix the issue
3. Yesterday when i was trying to shutdown my conputer thru xfce it took maybe 2 mintues to display the different logout options and then got an error message, see picture
4. Have more than once been unable to iniciate xfce
5. When ever i run under root netconfig, mkinit generator, etc the windows appera like my picture

I pretty sure all of this issues have occured after using the current branch updates, unless my computer has been compromised which in either case i really dont know were to start, i have looked at the syslog but honestly dont know what to mAke of it. I'm not to sure if it my ssd, its not even a year old, any help would be appreciated. I was wondering if maybe by any chance someone locally could help me
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Old 05-09-2017, 10:01 PM   #2
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How did you perform upgrade on your machine?
Did you install the new packages and merge all new configs?

Note that current is now set to use UTF-8

if you are planning to use -current, probably it's better to use -current ISO generated by AlienBOB
see here: http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/sla...4-current-iso/

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Old 05-09-2017, 10:05 PM   #3
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Also, did you update 14.2 before moving to --Current?
 
Old 05-09-2017, 10:25 PM   #4
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How did you perform upgrade on your machine?
Did you install the new packages and merge all new configs?

Note that current is now set to use UTF-8

if you are planning to use -current, probably it's better to use -current ISO generated by AlienBOB
see here: http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/sla...4-current-iso/
I downloaded 14.2 from the slackware website and that is what i used for the installation. After i had completed the installtion I logged in as root, changed the etc/slackpkg/mirrors and uncommented one current mirror that was closest to my location, i use slackpkg as my upgrade manager, i was given a handful of updates but i only did the kernel updates first, then I ran lilo with the appropriate lines, rebooted my machine and completed the rest of the remaing updates. As for the utf-8 i dont remember what i set it to do i find that setting maybe in lilo?
One quick question i have is in previous installs what i have done before checking for updates is create a non-root use then use SU to run all the commands but this time i logged in as root is that an issue?


To answer frankbell question: i would say no based on my respond to willsyr

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Old 05-09-2017, 10:28 PM   #5
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No, it doesn't make any difference in terms of creating users for performing updates.
It does make difference if you are running normal users on daily activities

Did you run these 2 commands on your upgrade procedure?
Code:
slackpkg install-new
slackpkg clean-system
UTF-8 is set in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
 
Old 05-09-2017, 11:54 PM   #6
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Did you run these 2 commands on your upgrade procedure?
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slackpkg install-new
slackpkg clean-system
UTF-8 is set in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
I remember runing the first one for sure, the second one i think i did but i cant remember can i still run it?
 
Old 05-10-2017, 04:15 AM   #7
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yes, you still do it now
basically it just removed packages no longer included in the -current, although i don't think it has any effect on your stability.
 
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yes, you still do it now
basically it just removed packages no longer included in the -current, although i don't think it has any effect on your stability.
From the utf-8 profile i only have the following lines omitted
Export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
Export LC_COLLATE=C

For the install-new command it installed
- gcc.brig-7-1.0......
- lame-3.99.5.......
- urw-core35-fonts.....

For the clean-system command it removed maybe 80 applications

If you don't think the clean-system command might fix the stability is there something else i should try?
 
Old 05-10-2017, 08:04 AM   #9
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I would go with a fresh -current ISO generated by AlienBOB i mentioned on my first reply
 
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I would go with a fresh -current ISO generated by AlienBOB i mentioned on my first reply
Fair enough but can explain in more detaill why em i experiencing this weird behaviour? Or why you think using AlienBOB might fix all my issues? Before i reload slackware is there anything else we can try?
 
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I used the same procedure on a VM, but i didn't get the same behaviour as you did, so i can't give a detailed answer about that.

I also followed current on my desktop, laptop and workstation and everything works well too.

Starting from a fresh installation is just one solution. You can also try to reinstall all slackware packages by running
Code:
slackpkg reinstall slackware64
and see if it fixed your problem

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Old 05-10-2017, 08:58 PM   #12
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I recently upgraded an up to date install of Slackware64 14.2 to Slackware64-current. Here are the commands I ran after uncommenting one mirror for slackware64-current.

# slackpkg update gpg

# slackpkg update

# slackpkg install-new

# slackpkg upgrade-all

# slackpkg clean-system
 
Old 05-10-2017, 10:41 PM   #13
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Starting from a fresh installation is just one solution. You can also try to reinstall all slackware packages by running
Code:
slackpkg reinstall slackware64
and see if it fixed your problem
Thanks for trying on a VM, well ill try the command first, after I run that command to i need to redo the slackpkg update?
I do have another question and i hope u can answer or someone else, my question is:
In terms of exploits is running current updates far more secure than running stable updates? I read all the time "keep ur system up to date" so does that mean use current as default? For example stable Firefox is usually a couple revs behind current, so is othet libraries like openssl an other ones i saw

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Old 05-10-2017, 10:58 PM   #14
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I recently upgraded an up to date install of Slackware64 14.2 to Slackware64-current. Here are the commands I ran after uncommenting one mirror for slackware64-current.

# slackpkg update gpg

# slackpkg update

# slackpkg install-new

# slackpkg upgrade-all

# slackpkg clean-system
Thanks hitest if my memory serves me well, i believe i did the smae steps but not in that order i did
Slackpkg update gpg
Slackpkg update
Slackpkg upgrade-all
Slackpkg install-new
And maybe the clean-system
But know that i know the proper sequence ill write them down
 
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Thanks hitest if my memory serves me well, i believe i did the smae steps but not in that order i did
Slackpkg update gpg
Slackpkg update
Slackpkg upgrade-all
Slackpkg install-new
And maybe the clean-system
But know that i know the proper sequence ill write them down
probably best to run install-new first then upgrade-all. That way, if an important package is replaced, you will not end up with a broken system.

-stable is designed to maintain backward compatibility, so not all new version gets backported to -stable. Only security fixes or an important patches that goes into -stable. As for Firefox case, -stable received ESR version, which is maintained for a long time instead of following latest version that might *surprise* people with their new features.
 
  


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