Well it's not really "out of the box" it didn't seem to me that Pat tested any 2.6 kernels that where included, he just said what the hell and included them for the sake of including them, there are also a number of other features that it seems he did not test, like if you have a Creative Live!Drive the permissions on the midi interface that allows the remote to work has the wrong permissions. There are several other things like this, but it's not a problem at all, well not for me anyways. I like a challenge every now and then.