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Old 03-28-2006, 09:19 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by cathectic
The problem with upgrading aaa*, is that the upgrade notes assume you are going from one release to the next (e.g. 10.1 to 10.2).

In this case, aaa* is not a problem, since you will upgrade it, and then overwrite all the files it installs with the proper libraries.

However, if you are tracking -current, installing aaa* will overwrite all those nice libraries you have and won't get overwritten since you are not upgrading/ reinstalling every package. Hence the warning is in the -current ChangeLog, but not in UPGRADE.TXT
thanks cathectic that explains some of it for me,although isn't aaa_elflibs the only one he states shouldn't be upgraded? aaa-base just say's that it should never be uninstalled..or am i missing something.last time i upgraded aaa.elflibs was the last time he had it for upgrade in current..which was feb 9..which reads like so

a/aaa_elflibs-10.2.0-i486-4.tgz: Added /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 ->
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 symlink, needed by Oracle 10g RAC support.
Thanks to Luigi Genoni.
Upgraded various other libraries.

so if he upgraded various other libraries along with adding the libgcc-s.so.1 symlink..wouldn't they be the newest version of said libraries?just wondering how it could downgrade libraries if the package is newer ..
 
Old 03-29-2006, 02:29 PM   #17
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Making a list like this doesn't really help anybody. It's just a little bit pretentious.


You're posting your personal experiences as if they are the greatest possible to people who could have very different needs than you.


Also, You recommend Gware and Freerock without providing ANY reasons. I guarantee that you have not used all three, so it is a little bit, jackass like, to recommend a gnome provider WITHOUT providing any rational reasons behind it, other than elitist reasons of, "I use it so it is the best."


If you used Dropline as much as Freerock you would clearly see why so many people use it. It's stupid to assume that everybody has the exact same needs as you.
 
Old 03-29-2006, 03:08 PM   #18
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Making a list like this doesn't really help anybody. It's just a little bit pretentious.
It is not very kind to burn down someone's good work like this.

The part you seem to have the most problems is:

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6. If you want to use GNOME, try Freerock GNOME or GWARE. There is also Dropline GNOME which is very nice, but I tend to use Freerock.
Seems very reasonable and well-intentioned to me. It just points out the options that are available to newcomers, without being unfair to one of the projects. I don't see much pretentiousness.

Last edited by danieldk; 03-29-2006 at 03:09 PM.
 
Old 03-29-2006, 03:15 PM   #19
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Making a list like this doesn't really help anybody. It's just a little bit pretentious.
It is? That sure as heck wasn't the intent. I was just trying to be helpful. So many people here in the Slackware LQ forums have helped me directly and indirectly that I was trying to return the favor. If you knew me, and of course you don't, then you'd know that I am one of the least pretentious people around. But, if it came across that way, then I apologize.

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You're posting your personal experiences as if they are the greatest possible to people who could have very different needs than you.
Well, sure. They are _my_ tips. And they are just "tips," nothing more, nothing less. YMMV.

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Also, You recommend Gware and Freerock without providing ANY reasons. I guarantee that you have not used all three, so it is a little bit, jackass like, to recommend a gnome provider WITHOUT providing any rational reasons behind it, other than elitist reasons of, "I use it so it is the best."
In keeping with the "tips" idea, they were supposed to be just little nuggets. I have used all three GNOME variants, actually, notwithstanding your guarantee. In fact, I think I said that only "tend" to use Freerock. I have Freerock on one box and Dropline on another box. As to my reasoning, Freerock is just a little easier to uninstall if someone wants to do so. So when I've set up other Slackware boxes, unless someone is a diehard GNOME fan, I "tend" to install Freerock. But not always. It ain't like it's my religion or anything.

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If you used Dropline as much as Freerock you would clearly see why so many people use it. It's stupid to assume that everybody has the exact same needs as you.
Hmmm... I don't recall making any such assumption. They're just _my_ tips based on my experience.

I welcome discussion on the substantive points themselves -- that was why I posted it -- to elicit feedback; however, I do not appreciate the "stupid" characterization.

Last edited by chess; 03-29-2006 at 11:19 PM.
 
Old 03-29-2006, 08:15 PM   #20
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Upgrade packages from -current on a very selective or as-needed basis,
I might actually amend this statement to read "if you want to run anything from -current, run all of current". Piecemeal updates will cause problems eventually.

I realize "very selective" may cover this.
 
Old 03-29-2006, 10:19 PM   #21
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I might actually amend this statement to read "if you want to run anything from -current, run all of current". Piecemeal updates will cause problems eventually.

I realize "very selective" may cover this.
That's a good point -- thanks! I'll edit it and add that.
 
  


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