In case anyone missed it:
Here's to keeping those snakes away!

The original church, way before the Council of Nicene was the Celtic Church. In fact, Celtic Church Bishops were at Nicene. Patrick an English Catholic destroyed this church. Then with Cromwell came the Protestants...

I find it appalling that my Kin revere the foreigner that destroyed Ireland' s native church and brang a foreign church to the land.

You've never heard of Palladius then?

OP - nice to see a touch of humour in the changelog. Slackware - you either get the humour or you don't.

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What you're forgetting is that Christianity itself is a "foreign church". Everyone would have likely been much happier if they'd all remained Druid. For a start it would have avoided hundreds of years of sectarian hatred.


Anyway, on a lighter note: St Patrick gets rid of a few snakes, St. George slays a frickin' Dragon! And which one gets the party?

Something's not quite right there!

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PV is a big Guinness fan, I'd say that explains it.

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That was a nice touch. Saint Patrick keeps the updates coming! Praise Bob!

"Dark humor is like food; not everbody gets it." -- Joseph Stalin

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Not bloody likely. I imagine if you built a time machine and went back to prevent the spread of Christianity in Ireland, you'd return to the present day to find all the Druids calling the Ulstermen Druids heretics, and vice versa, just like any other religion. Hell, they were probably doing it back then anyway.

Anyways, cheers to St. Patrick of Slackware!

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You think getting rid of snakes is literal? If so he did a piss poor job since there is still lots of snakes in Ireland.

@Gazl, what is not quite right is the crap told as history. Do I believe my ancestors or some foreign robe with a funny hat in Rome? Christianity was not foreign to Ireland before Patrick, it is the main point. It snowballs from that premise, which is easily proven. Ireland is Christian. Not fully of course. An Englishman comes with Catholicism and destroys religion already. Then Cromwell comes with Protestanism and destroys Catholicism in most of Ireland. Catholic and Protestant churches are the foreign churches, not the Celtic which was Christian and it is arguable if Catholic was at that time, Protestant never. So it was not Christianity that created the sectarian hatred but actually non-Christians. Yet, blames Christianity...

The leader as St.Patrick is amusing. It will be a labour worthy of a saint when 15 finally comes out. Slackware adherents will also have practised the patience of a saint.

Give it a rest. This whole story being propagated about Patrick is nonsense, which demonstrates the dangers of mixing religion and nationalism. Complaints about Roman Catholic imperialism practised in Ireland in the fifth century are also somewhat ironic given Ireland's strong historical associations until quite recently with Roman Catholicism.

First, Patrick was not English. The English were wandering somewhere in Northern Germany at the time, and invaded Britain a little after Patrick's time. Patrick was British, which was then Celtic (Britain spoke p-Celtic, the Irish spoke q-Celtic). Britain at the time was relatively early in adopting (Celtic) Christianity - although it lost it for 150 or so years when the pagan English did arrive shortly afterwards - and Patrick was indeed a (Celtic) evangelist in Ireland which was then largely polytheistic. When what is now England was subsequently re-evengelized by missionaries from Europe, a mix of Roman and Celtic Christian customs prevailed in Britain which were unified at the Synod of Whitby, and which did not affect Ireland.

No doubt the Irish have many things to complain about but this is not one of them.

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Ignatius of Antioch, in a letter of 107AD, was the first to use the term Catholic to describe the church. Together with the rest of the Fathers he saw the church as indivisible, and as universal, with Rome as its primary See. The use of the self-contradictory term Roman Catholic to define the universal church would have been incomprehensible to them.

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It’s worth remembering there were places in the world where cannibalism on a large scale was still practised before the arrival of Christianity. If this is the world you want to go back to then go for it.

I try to imagine a World where there was no Middle Age and one thousand years of obscurantism. And witch hunts.

Probably the trains had been invented around 900, and in 1000 we had airplanes. And somewhere around 1060 we stepped on Moon.

You can imagine a world where we had airplanes and spaceships since the last 1000 years?

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That's the world China had.

Are you kidding? p and q-Cetlic? The terms are Gaellic and Bretonnic. King Vortigen (or a King Cnute and not the later Norsk one) hired Angles and Saxon mercs to fight the Danes before Patrick was born; he was Anglais and not Breton to use original terms since avoiding pedantics does not suit you.



Angles directly S and a bit E of Denmark and Saxons S of Angles. Not wandering somewhere, settled in a very defined area.


The local historical record of the Isles disagrees with what you said and you are having a logical coherence problem here. Patrick was 5th century, so that is after the Celtic Church which there is no proof was centralized as Western and Eastern Churches but the fact and the Vatican agrees; is it existed before Patrick and before the Council of Nicene. So how is complaints about foreign invaders ironic? How does the fact become ironic? It doesn' t.


The danger comes from people that either with an agenda or out of ignorance rewrite history, or repeat the words of those trying to rewrite history which is increasingly the universities. The Anglais have been trying to rewrite foreign history for a long time before you were born or your father or your grandfather...