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Old 10-19-2019, 11:33 AM   #16
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A quick test of 68.1.2:

* Segfault with gfx.downloadable_fonts.enabled=false.
* The Identity Chooser addon is now compatible with 68.x, but the newer 1.9.9 version is incompatible with 60.9.
* The 68.1.2 Help->About dialog is not yet updated, but I did not expect that to happen until 68.2.
 
Old 10-19-2019, 11:39 AM   #17
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as soon as i have enough free time i'm going back to zoho mail. yrs i know for outside email accounts i'll have to use pop3, but it's better than the trash known as thunderTURD. i truly thought going from 60 to 68 would bring some much needed improvements. but NOPE still the same piece of crap. between the piss poor firefox because of the new worthless addons engine and a truly awful email client i'm truly amazed mozilla is still around.
 
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Old 10-19-2019, 11:43 AM   #18
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For what it's worth, I upgraded Thunderbird to 68.1.1 on my OpenSUSE Leap box, which completely wrecked my mail and basically made it unusable. I had to retrieve my ~/.thunderbird from the local backup server and downgrade to the latest 60.x to get everything working again. Having to deal with this kind of nonsense makes me feel like having to work with an adult that has to be potty-trained from start again every couple years. And yeah, after the downgrade, Enigmail stopped working, so all my encrypted mail is currently unreadable.
 
Old 10-19-2019, 11:48 AM   #19
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For those of us who get fed up with the continual changes made to Thunderbird, there's always Seamonkey Mail...
 
Old 10-19-2019, 11:50 AM   #20
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For those of us who get fed up with the continual changes made to Thunderbird, there's always Seamonkey Mail...
unified inbox for imap?
 
Old 10-19-2019, 12:07 PM   #21
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For what it's worth, I upgraded Thunderbird to 68.1.1 on my OpenSUSE Leap box, which completely wrecked my mail and basically made it unusable. I had to retrieve my ~/.thunderbird from the local backup server and downgrade to the latest 60.x to get everything working again. Having to deal with this kind of nonsense makes me feel like having to work with an adult that has to be potty-trained from start again every couple years. And yeah, after the downgrade, Enigmail stopped working, so all my encrypted mail is currently unreadable.
Having read this in the Release Notes:
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Thunderbird version 68.1.2 is only offered as direct download from thunderbird.net and not as upgrade from Thunderbird version 60 or earlier. A future version 68.2 will provide updates from earlier versions.
I decided not to upgrade to 68.1.2 in Slint. Additionally I am waiting for a bug fix: currently adding a language pack from the Preferences UI doesn't work, cf.: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1577142
Time will tell if having Thunderbird an independent project now (with still some help from the Mozilla Foundation) helps or not...

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Old 10-19-2019, 12:15 PM   #22
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Regarding minimizing to the system tray (notification area), I stumbled across alltray. I haven't tested.

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I had to retrieve my ~/.thunderbird from the local backup server and downgrade to the latest 60.x to get everything working again.
I empathize. My approach for testing 68.x:

* Pull the network cable.
* cp -a .thunderbird .thunderbird.bak
* upgradepkg 68.x
* Nominal poke and test the interface.
* Test add-on compatibility.
* upgradepkg 60.9.0
* rm -rf .thunderbird
* mv .thunderbird.bak .thunderbird
* Restore the network cable.

I haven't tested 68.x with actually fetching or sending mails. I don't have a serious need for encryption. I stopped using Mailbox Alert and I use only two extensions, Lightning and Identity Chooser. Thus my environment is lighter than many TBird users and is unlikely to experience similar breakage as other users.

My big concern is the segfault with gfx.downloadable_fonts.enabled=false. I don't mind if this is a bug or oversight by the devs. I'm unsettled though that the majority of people merely shrug with the problem of the Google footprint on their computers.

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Having read this in the Release Notes:
I read that too before testing. I'm in no rush to move to 68.x. I don't use TBird as a pseudo web browser or RSS/news reader. I disable a boat load of prefs.js settings and my TBird is way more secure than the defaults. Still, I thought I would run a quick test of 68.1.2 after Pat updated /patches.
 
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:31 PM   #23
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unified inbox for imap?
I sincerely hope not.
 
Old 10-19-2019, 01:21 PM   #24
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I sincerely hope not.
think before you post cause a unified inbox would be optional just like it is in most email clients that offer it for imap.
 
Old 10-19-2019, 01:55 PM   #25
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I was half joking.

Sure if it was disable-able it wouldn't bother me too much.

I just genuinely hate unified inbox and everything it stands for (and I wouldn't date a girl who used it), so I'd question the intentions of developers who add it to their software.

But hey, Seamonkey has support for extensions, so it would be a good candidate for an extension I suppose. I think interest in Seamonkey is fairly low these days so I don't see it happening though.
 
Old 10-19-2019, 03:29 PM   #26
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I was half joking.
I just genuinely hate unified inbox and everything it stands for (and I wouldn't date a girl who used it), so I'd question the intentions of developers who add it to their software.
dude you really need to return to your padded cell and take your meds.
 
Old 10-19-2019, 03:36 PM   #27
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dude you really need to return to your padded cell and take your meds.
At only 8 posts, you do not have any standing to insult forum participants.
 
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Old 10-19-2019, 03:42 PM   #28
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At only 8 posts, you do not have any standing to insult forum participants.
no one insulted you. not my problem if you don't like the truth. fyi only a child actually goes by post count.
 
Old 10-19-2019, 04:10 PM   #29
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Thunderbird 68.1 in -current (not 14.2) with ktown

I decided to take the plunge and move up to ktown this week on my 64-current desktop. The cascade of self-inflicted process changes continues! :-)

Today I moved to TB 68.1.2 as a replacement for a tired combination of Roundcube Mail and Akonadi/Korganizer for calendar. I'm running a cluster of 14.2 servers in-house that provide IMAP, SMTP, CalDAV, CardDAV so I wanted to continue to used them. Gotta keep my desktop, laptop and Android phone in sync.

I've installed 4 TB add-ons so far: Identity Chooser, TbSync, Provider for CalDAV & CardDAV, and a manual install of a pre-merge ThunderBirthDay.

This is a pretty sweet setup for mail & calendar so far!
 
Old 10-19-2019, 04:11 PM   #30
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no one insulted you. not my problem if you don't like the truth. fyi only a child actually goes by post count.
You've been reported to the mods. Caveat lector
 
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