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Cabbie001 12-16-2020 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 6196350)
FWIW I am a complete NAB at slackpkg, only just recently experimenting with it on a testing install on it's own partition. I'm really Old Skool and prefer doing everything manually but that is becoming more difficult with Current as upgrade instructions now rely on slackpkg almost exclusively. It's actually quite impressive in that it displays a list of proposed changes that one can selectively uncheck. Also, like other distro's package managers, it is important to understand the choice of repositories and the config file filters which might require alteration for specific actions to be actually "safe" or "without problems".

Example, left to default configs, "slackpkg upgrade all" will not only replace your existing kernel as the default, it will remove much of it altogether unless you protect it. So be careful and well-advised if you consider it on anything but a testing install, at least until you discover how it operates for your own peace of mind.

Oh my gosh! Replaces the kernel... I think I'll pass for now. Everything's working just fine ;)

enorbet 12-17-2020 12:14 AM

Replacing the kernel option isn't a huge deal since upgrades are usually beneficial and all one need do is uncheck the box for proposed kernel upgrade if you don't want to bother upgrading a kernel or if you just prefer (as I do) to install your own and incidentally keeping the working kernel as backup insurance.

Cabbie001 12-17-2020 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 6196482)
Replacing the kernel option isn't a huge deal since upgrades are usually beneficial and all one need do is uncheck the box for proposed kernel upgrade if you don't want to bother upgrading a kernel or if you just prefer (as I do) to install your own and incidentally keeping the working kernel as backup insurance.

Thanks enorbet, I will keep that info in mind. Not today, however ;)

truepatriot76 12-17-2020 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bindestreck (Post 6195795)
Did not know you can actually theme sbopkg and slackpkg by modifying /etc/dialogrc. Here I show slackpkg running with updates.

You have an undeniable talent at this Bindestreck! Very impressed with your theming, top notch.

Cabbie001 12-18-2020 12:06 AM

Window Maker Menu Configuration
 
Since I seem to be in a minority of Slackware enthusiasts who likes Window Maker as my default desktop, I wonder if it has anything to do with its menu configuration system? Are people sufficiently aware that Window Maker has a very good GUI menu editor? That is, unlike many of the other small-footprint window managers out there (Fluxbox, Openbox, Blackbox, IceWM) Window Maker does not take kindly to direct text editing of the user-specific mouse driven menus. In fact if you do that the changes won't be permanent as they system will keep the original. On the other hand the GUI editor is very intuitive and its changes once saved are permanent.

There are actually two GUI menu editors available for Window Maker. One is the older default "WPrefs" command (/usr/lib64/GNUstep/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs), which is traditionally activated via the WMDock icon. However there's also a newer alternative GUI editor called "wmakerconf" which is available as a SlackBuild. Some people dislike Window Maker's square icons, but they can be made much smaller than the default if that is desired, as one of many tweaks available from the editors. In addition the secondary "ghost" icons which normally show up for each active application, can be made invisible by specifying that one of the "drawers" in the right-hand dock area will "auto-attract them".

Another easy customization is placing all your favorite desktop images in ~/GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/Backgrounds/ after which they will automatically appear in Appearance->Background->Images for swapping between them.

So there it is, my defense of the lowly Window Maker.

SCerovec 12-18-2020 05:18 AM

One might say that Window Maker aged well, good post @Cabbie001 :thumbsup:

GazL 12-18-2020 05:49 AM

Yep, the only place where WMaker is showing it's age is that the WINGs library used by the WPrefs UI and dockapps doesn't really scale to today's higher dpi screens, so it gets really small (same issue as xine-ui's settings dialog).

These days I use fvwm2 instead, but I've always had a soft spot for Wmaker.

allend 12-18-2020 08:46 AM

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I have had this in my ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu for so long that I have lost where it came from.
Code:

  (
    Generated,
    OPEN_PLMENU,
    "|| wmmenugen -parser:xdg $(find /usr/share/applications -type f -name '*.desktop')"
  ),

It automatically generates an application menu structure.
Lowly Window Maker may be, but it suits me.

The only glitch I have experienced with the recent upgrades has been the need to start the xfce4-notifyd daemon so that nm-applet would receive DBUS notifications.

montagdude 12-18-2020 09:21 AM

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Plasma 5 with a picture I took the other day. I'll hopefully get back to some kite aerial photography wallpapers next time I get a chance to fly.

Gerard Lally 12-18-2020 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allend (Post 6196966)
Lowly Window Maker may be, but it suits me.

Nice desktop

Cabbie001 12-18-2020 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allend (Post 6196966)
I have had this in my ~/GNUstep/Defaults/WMRootMenu for so long that I have lost where it came from.
Code:

  (
    Generated,
    OPEN_PLMENU,
    "|| wmmenugen -parser:xdg $(find /usr/share/applications -type f -name '*.desktop')"
  ),

It automatically generates an application menu structure.
Lowly Window Maker may be, but it suits me.

The only glitch I have experienced with the recent upgrades has been the need to start the xfce4-notifyd daemon so that nm-applet would receive DBUS notifications.

That is a very interesting snippet of code. I've never seen that self-generated submenu in any default WMRootMenu files, but pasting it into mine does exactly the same thing. Always something new. Or should I say: "Something old, something new."

allend 12-19-2020 03:06 AM

Looking back, I think I adapted the code snippet from this.
@Cabbie001 - Thanks for the information on being able to change the default icon size. I always thought it should be possible but have never found out how to do it.

Cabbie001 12-19-2020 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by allend (Post 6197246)
Looking back, I think I adapted the code snippet from this.
@Cabbie001 - Thanks for the information on being able to change the default icon size. I always thought it should be possible but have never found out how to do it.

Again, interesting. Looks like that was introduced in 2013. But the command -- /usr/bin/wmmenugen -- will spit out the subdirectory's contents on the command line, as you can see in WM_Menu_Generated.txt; and that if copied over to the WMRootMenu (after backing up of course!) will then use only the Generated menu as your full menu. (see GeneratedMenu.jpg)

You're welcome re the icons. If you have not already found it, you might enjoy checking the "Auto-arrange Icons" option (see IconPreferences.jpg). After doing that, there is no more need for icon maintenance as they organize themselves automatically each time you activate an application. The remaining icons then fill the gap and re-arrange themselves in order of most-recently used (right-to-left).

Cheers

mocca 12-19-2020 10:37 PM

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My Slackware current DE

Cabbie001 12-20-2020 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazL (Post 6196913)
Yep, the only place where WMaker is showing it's age is that the WINGs library used by the WPrefs UI and dockapps doesn't really scale to today's higher dpi screens, so it gets really small (same issue as xine-ui's settings dialog).

These days I use fvwm2 instead, but I've always had a soft spot for Wmaker.

I see now you're referring to how the WPrefs UI does not scale up, is of fixed size. I hadn't noticed it since for me the resolution seems fine even on my large 1920x1080 monitor.
Fvwm is also very cool and hearkens back to the early days of Unix Xwindows, or at least the look of it. (first version 1993 looks like)
However I find it rather difficult to configure. The menus are embedded within the .fvwmrc (or .fvwm2rc) file, and with kind of tricky syntax.
I see there are alternate theme packages too, but how to implement them is unclear.
Can you show us your current configuration with a screenshot?


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