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Old 09-26-2006, 08:47 AM   #1216
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Originally Posted by Hangdog42
If he is tweaking email and adding ZipSlack, we gotta be just moments away from the big unveiling.......
Yep. Real close I'd say.

Good to see that the media:/ bug in KDE has been fixed for all the "chickens little" out there!
 
Old 09-26-2006, 08:50 AM   #1217
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Originally Posted by hosler
Once 11 comes out im going to throw my laptop out my window or run over it with my car so I can get a new one with the waranty.
You could send it to me and tell them someone robbed you...
 
Old 09-26-2006, 10:34 AM   #1218
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is it today or tomorrow!!
 
Old 09-26-2006, 10:42 AM   #1219
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Tue Sep 26 05:57:52 CDT 2006
a/aaa_base-11.0.0-noarch-2.tgz: Updated the "Welcome to Slackware" email.
Added /mount directory, subdirectories, and symbolic links recommended by
the FHS, along with README files to help me understand the difference
between this directory and /mnt. ;-)
What does this mean exactly? We will have two places where to mount things now? mount and mnt? I tried looking this up on the FHS site (www.pathname.com/fhs) but didn't find anything. So can anyone elaborate on this?
 
Old 09-26-2006, 11:04 AM   #1220
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I think in Pat's mind /mount=/media. /mount seems like a better name to me anyway, so I agree with Pat on this one. The FHS specs declare /mnt to be a temporary mount point (cleaning a harddrive for someone, making sure an iso isn't corrupted before burning, etc.) and looks like Pat is finally going along with that one. In previous versions of Slackware, cdrom was under /mnt/cdrom, so the only temporary place was /mnt/mnt (or /mnt/whateveryouwant), which could get a bit confusing.

That being said, this post is a mixture of facts and what I think Pat is thinking (aren't they all in this thread?).
 
Old 09-26-2006, 11:05 AM   #1221
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I would have though it was /media that needed adding. That's what I use for cdroms/ flashdrives etc
 
Old 09-26-2006, 11:19 AM   #1222
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Well I just checked and aaa_base creates /media and /mnt, and they also have READMEs.

/mnt/README:
The purpose of the /mnt directory is to provide a place for the admin to
mount block device temporarily. Any of the subdirectories of /mnt may be
used, or volumes may even be mounted directly on /mnt (which is the
traditional way of doing things, though /mnt/tmp is also provided for
the purpose of mounting any kind of volume temporarily).

See the /media directory also.

/media/README:
The purpose of the /media directory is to provide a consistent place
across different systems for users and applications to mount
removeable media. For example, this might be used by KDE's
Media Manager feature in Konqueror. That will look into /etc/fstab
to determine where to mount a volume, and for now this still defaults
to using /mnt (e.g. /mnt/cdrom as the cdrom mount point), but you
may edit your /etc/fstab if you'd like to follow the FHS
recommendations.

See the /mnt directory also.

That ought to clear up everything. (Note to self: in future, check before speculating.)
 
Old 09-26-2006, 11:53 AM   #1223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rkelsen
O... K... then.

What would be wrong with just installing Slackware on it? I mean Slackware will easily run on a 2.2Ghz P4.

*backs away slowly, trying to not make eye contact while maintaining a cheesy grin*
My laptop is poorly made. So I have to do this every once in a while. I have Slack 10.2 on it right now.
 
Old 09-26-2006, 02:11 PM   #1224
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i don't see what's wrong with just /mnt. /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/dvd, /mnt/network-drive, /mnt/windows, /mnt/temp, /mnt/whatever -- is it really that hard to understand that /mnt is where you mount things? it's much more logical than /media anyway, since you have to *mount* the media before it becomes (usable) media. it also keeps everything in one place -- k.i.s.s. (keep it simple, slackware? ) too late now i guess, but doing something just because KDE is making everything be done that way is kind of a sucky way to approach things, imho.
 
Old 09-26-2006, 02:45 PM   #1225
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i don't see what's wrong with just /mnt. /mnt/cdrom, /mnt/dvd, /mnt/network-drive, /mnt/windows, /mnt/temp, /mnt/whatever -- is it really that hard to understand that /mnt is where you mount things? it's much more logical than /media anyway, since you have to *mount* the media before it becomes (usable) media. it also keeps everything in one place -- k.i.s.s. (keep it simple, slackware? ) too late now i guess, but doing something just because KDE is making everything be done that way is kind of a sucky way to approach things, imho.
It isn't a Slackware specific thing. It isn't a KDE thing... It's a FHS thing and lots of distro's and software (KDE for example) are using it now. My guess is that it is created to make it more accessible to the masses. They know media... they don't know mounting. For the average Joe, a DVD is just a mediadisc that is accessible a few seconds after you've closed you DVD-tray. It would take a newbie an hour to find out that it should be mounted first. That is why most distros put an icon on the desktop the moment media is inserted.... To make it more userfriendly... For geeks (like most of the slackware-crowd) it might not be wanted/needed. But we'll get used to it :-)
 
Old 09-26-2006, 03:35 PM   #1226
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/media makes more sense.

/media is specifically for temporary use of removeable media for user purposes. /mnt is specifically for the temporary mounting of fixed disks for admin purposes.

A user should never, ever have to mount something in /mnt, that is just for root or other administrator accounts. If /media and /mnt are separated, it creates another level of security in a way. Allow users to ONLY write to /media(for their floppy disks or cdroms or usb drives) and allow root access to /media and /mnt(for /dev/hda3, or for a second hard disk only for backups). Mount all permanent media in a permanent place.(such as /home, /usr, /usr/local, etc)
 
Old 09-26-2006, 04:12 PM   #1227
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Originally Posted by liquidtenmilion
/media makes more sense.

/media is specifically for temporary use of removeable media for user purposes. /mnt is specifically for the temporary mounting of fixed disks for admin purposes.

A user should never, ever have to mount something in /mnt, that is just for root or other administrator accounts. If /media and /mnt are separated, it creates another level of security in a way. Allow users to ONLY write to /media(for their floppy disks or cdroms or usb drives) and allow root access to /media and /mnt(for /dev/hda3, or for a second hard disk only for backups). Mount all permanent media in a permanent place.(such as /home, /usr, /usr/local, etc)
that does kind of make sense. for me on a single-user system, it's always been easier just to throw everything in /mnt, but i can see the advantages of splitting things up if you have a lot of users.
 
Old 09-26-2006, 09:29 PM   #1228
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Wink call me lazy but /mnt is shorter

Hi there

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mount/floppy

Call me lazy, but I feel the shorter way is better

And what about someone eating pizza with the right hand and writing with the left? 3 keystrokes are better than 5 I think...
 
Old 09-26-2006, 09:36 PM   #1229
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Quote:
Originally Posted by folkenfanel
Hi there

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mount/floppy

Call me lazy, but I feel the shorter way is better

And what about someone eating pizza with the right hand and writing with the left? 3 keystrokes are better than 5 I think...
i thought it was /media not mount...

besides, the stuff in /media gets mounted automatically for users, no??
 
Old 09-26-2006, 09:48 PM   #1230
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Wink what about someone who prefers to do it by hand?



What about someone who prefers doing it by hand?

And the "pollution" of one additional entry in the sacred /
 
  


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