The Ultimate "When Will The Next Slackware Release Arrive" MegaThread

Bruce Hill · 08-01-2006, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by ahmed gamal

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then could you tell me how can i install kernel 2.6 without installing kernel 2.4?

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mingdao@silas:~$ less /server2/Slackware-10.2/RELEASE_NOTES
The 2.6 kernel series shows a great deal of promise, but it's
still undergoing heavy development and the stability of any given
release can be hit-or-miss. Things are improving rapidly in that
regard though, and Greg Kroah-Hartman, Chris Wright, and some other
folks have been helping by producing stable branches (2.6.x.y)
after each new major release of a 2.6.x kernel. Anyway, since
there is hardware out there that requires a 2.6 kernel in order to
install, this release of Slackware does have a 2.6.13 kernel that's
integrated into the installer. To install using it, enter test26.s
at the boot prompt after booting the first disc. This kernel has
compiled-in support for essentially all of the hard drive
controllers and filesystems that are supported by the 2.6.13
kernel, and should be helpful for people with new SATA controllers
or other hardware that 2.4.31 doesn't support. This kernel doesn't
have any built in network support and is primarily intended for
installing from local media (although if you were to toss a few
2.6.13 modules on a floppy disk and load them from there it should
work). Also, the kernel module packages for 2.6.13 are not part
of the standard installation, so if you install using the test26.s
kernel you'll have to install those packages when you're done.
They can be found under testing/packages/linux-2.6.13/ (or ISO
number two under /linux-2.6.13), the alsa-driver and
kernel-modules packages. You might also consider installing the
other packages there and building an initrd according to the
instructions in README.initrd if you'd like to be running a slimmer
kernel without a lot of unneeded drivers taking up RAM, or better
yet, visit ftp.kernel.org in /pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ and grab the
latest version of the 2.6 kernel to build your own. It'll
probably have some important fixes.

You can probably find this already in this thread.

And since you seem to be interested in Slackware, you should learn to
use the search, and perhaps read some of these articles:

The Slackware Linux Project

Slackware Linux Essentials

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This book is designed to get you started with the Slackware Linux operating system.

Slackware Linux Basics - For Slackware Linux 10.2

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This book aims to provide an introduction to Slackware Linux. It addresses people who have little or no GNU/Linux experience, and covers the Slackware Linux installation, basic GNU/Linux commands and the configuration of Slackware Linux. After reading this book, you should be prepared to use Slackware Linux for your daily work, and more than that.

A Slackware Desktop Enhancement Guide

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My goal with this guide is to help people overcome some of the common usability hurdles infamously associated with Slackware. The result is a stable and satisfying operating system and one that responds well.

Eric Hameleers (Alien)’s Wiki pages

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Eric Hameleers's contributions to the Slackware community.

zetabill · 08-01-2006, 10:17 PM

After monitoring this thread for some time now and realizing its irreplaceable importance in the Slackware universe, what will come of it?

I mean... Let's say that Slackware 11 comes out in two or three weeks. Will this thread continue after that point? Will it be closed? Will it be ignored?

In all seriousness, though....

The day Slackware 11 comes out, this thread isn't going to be populated with the same speculation about 11.1 and so on and so on...?

Well I think that 11.1 should be 2.6 exclusively, anyway...

Bruce Hill · 08-01-2006, 10:23 PM

Perhaps this thread will get some rest, for say, 6 months?
And then those who can't or won't run -current, or compile
from source, will get this same itchy feeling again.

zetabill · 08-01-2006, 10:54 PM

6 months is a little optimistic?

win32sux · 08-02-2006, 12:51 PM

KDE 3.5.4 was released today...

will pat update slackware -current's KDE before 11.0 is released??

let the speculation begin!!!

http://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.4.php

raska · 08-02-2006, 12:55 PM

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!

new KDE version!!!! let the compilation begin!!!

Thanks

Bruce Hill · 08-02-2006, 01:04 PM

With all the other changes he's made lately, will there be a "stable" Slackware any time soon seems to be a better question.

win32sux · 08-02-2006, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chinaman

With all the other changes he's made lately, will there be a "stable" Slackware any time soon seems to be a better question.

LOL, that's exactly what i was thinking...

i figure if kde 3.5.4 was a purely bugfix release, then without a doubt he would update it... but because this release also adds like 27 new features, i'm not 100% sure he'll update... but if you look at the changelog, there's TONS of bugs squashed, so who knows what pat will decide... we'll have to wait and see...

my guess is that he'll update -current's kde to 3.5.4, and 11.0 will be released with that version... then when kde 3.5.5 is released to fix the bugs in the new features, updated packages for 11.0 will be issued through /patches...

Bruce Hill · 08-02-2006, 05:08 PM

KDE is just like Windoze ... rather than fixing the bugs in previous
versions, they release new software with new features and new bugs.

Hence, my moniker -- Krummy Desktop Excuse

It finally dawned on me that it must be that way, since they're trying
to attract Windoze migrants; and without software that hangs and
crashes, there wouldn't be guys sitting on their hands waiting
for The Next Great Release to fix them all

win32sux · 08-02-2006, 05:17 PM

hehe... well, i switched my main desktop to ubuntu a few days ago, so i'm not very concerned with slackware's GUI apps... i'm actually pretty happy with ubuntu's gnome install so far... i look forward to the more modern software which slackware 11.0 will bring to my other boxes, but they mostly use only the command-line, no GUI... i guess that's why i'm not as desperate for 11.0 as some people... =/

darkhatter · 08-02-2006, 06:24 PM

personally I don't find kde or gnome buggy so I'm confused at to where you are getting these compliants

Comming back from Suse Enterprise Desktop 10 to my home in slackware

davidsrsb · 08-02-2006, 11:10 PM

The 3.5.x series is more about bug fixes than features.
Looking at the announcement most of the additions fall into the "missing bits" category. Now 4.0 is going to be a buggy monster, but Pat will probably wait for 4.1 before it becomes part of Slackware.

Old_Fogie · 08-02-2006, 11:25 PM

Personally I find KDE's konqueror in 10.2 sometimes does not always copy files or move them, or make changes to files that it is supposed to. Oh it claims to, but sometimes it simply does not and I have lost data because of it. So far the latest KDE that I'm using from the KDE web-site seems to have resolved this. I still don't understand how Amarok & Firefox can freeze the system. Again, upgrading versions has helped. Actually NOT using Firefox from Pat but using straight from mozilla seems to have resolved my java issue, in a way...now java app's only take 1 minute to load for accessing a router, or print server with embedded java. So I still use opera for that, but at least the java is working, and not memory leaking and taking down X on me. My fear is that the memory leak I experienced (or what it feels like at least) is that I could become vulnerable to attack while system is locked the heck down. It's wierd, firefox is what got me into investigating open-source, and I can't use it in gnu/linux and have to go closed source to surf the net.

chopp · 08-03-2006, 02:58 AM

look's like 3.5.4 it shall be

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Thu Aug 3 01:26:43 CDT 2006
kde/*: Upgraded to KDE 3.5.4. I know I told at least a few people that I
wasn't planning on including this in Slackware 11.0 at the last minute,
and there have been a couple of patches needed for it already.
Please test quickly. :-)

Bruce Hill · 08-03-2006, 04:05 AM

Hey all you when-is-Slackware-11.0-coming-out-I-gotta-have-it guys!!!!!

Here's your chance to give back to the Slackware community ...

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Originally posted by Pat Volkerding
Please test quickly. :-)

Let your box breaking begin.