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07-26-2006, 09:40 AM
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#421
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Guru
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Canada
Distribution: Slackware, Debian, Ubuntu
Posts: 7,442
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinaman
It's really quite a disservice to compare Slackware to Windoze.
One is a stable operating system developed by a man who wants
to provide a good service and hopes for a similar return.
The other is a piece of junk operating system developed by a
lousy thief who wants to rule the world, and could not care
LESS about anyone who buys his POS.
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Well-said. Winders is indeed a POS operating system. I am very much looking forward to Pat's newest creation.
Slackware rules!
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07-26-2006, 09:51 AM
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#422
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Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Australia
Distribution: Slackware 12.1
Posts: 235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinaman
Since this is just a free-for-all thread, and my previous
post didn't because of my sorry Chinese internet service:
While you still have the choice ...
It's really quite a disservice to compare Slackware to Windoze.
One is a stable operating system developed by a man who wants
to provide a good service and hopes for a similar return.
The other is a piece of junk operating system developed by a
lousy thief who wants to rule the world, and could not care
LESS about anyone who buys his POS.
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I guess that this thread has become a "free for all". It's origin is however related to the release of Slackware 11.0.
The Windoze vs Linux debate has been done to death, is an emotional topic and always manages to push a few buttons. Let's stay on track.
I am going back to "0 replies", to see if I can offer assistance to a linux convert, and hopefully prevent them from returning to the clutches of the lousy thief that you refer to.
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07-26-2006, 09:55 AM
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#423
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HCL Maintainer
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: McCalla, AL, USA
Distribution: Arch, Gentoo
Posts: 6,941
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This thread is a merged bunch of junk, because they got tired of all the whinning and new threads about when Slackware will be released. It should be put in General so that it doesn't elevate post counts.
The reason Pat has Slackware-current is for people who want to help him test packages to go in the next stable release. It's therefore available for others who want to run more up-to-date software, but cannot or will not compile from source for themselves.
I find it quite interesting that Slackware is the only distribution whose followers drool at the mouth waiting for the next stable release.
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07-26-2006, 11:37 AM
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#424
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Member
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Ne
Distribution: slackware 12 on Dell XPS m1710
Posts: 90
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinaman
Excuse me, but there is absolutely NO comparison to make.
It's not like apples to oranges, it's like watermelon to cow manure.
Your choice ...
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o_O I wasn't comparing the OS's, just the costs.
Edit: your link still doesn't work for me.
Last edited by drlouis; 07-26-2006 at 11:40 AM.
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07-26-2006, 06:36 PM
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#425
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Senior Member
Registered: May 2003
Distribution: Slackware, OpenSuSE
Posts: 1,839
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What's OCD standing for?
Hi,
it may be a bit off-topic, but can anyone tell me, as a non-native English speaker, what "OCD" is standing for?
From the Changelog for Slackware-current as of 2006-07-26: "l/libpng-1.2.12-i486-1.tgz: Upgraded to libpng-1.2.12. The libpng.so has gone .3 -> .0 -> .3. I'll see what I can do about getting everything that's linked to .0 relinked with .3, as that's the major library number Slackware 10.2's libpng.so is using. There is a .0 symlink to keep any code that was compiled while that was the number working just fine, but I will recompile a bunch of things mostly for the sake not using this link. It works either way, but I have an OCD about silly things like this. ;-)"
Thanks! ;-)
gargamel
Last edited by gargamel; 07-26-2006 at 06:38 PM.
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07-26-2006, 06:43 PM
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#426
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Member
Registered: Dec 2005
Distribution: Slackware -current - KDE 3.5.10
Posts: 62
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Obsessive Compulsive Disorder? As in he feels he has to simplify it? That's my interpretation anyways.
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07-26-2006, 06:48 PM
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#427
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Member
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Lawrence, KS
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 315
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Ocd
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is the one I suscribe to.
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07-26-2006, 07:38 PM
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#428
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LQ Guru
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Los Angeles
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 9,870
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yeah, it's obsessive compulsive disorder IMHO also.
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07-26-2006, 07:50 PM
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#429
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HCL Maintainer
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: McCalla, AL, USA
Distribution: Arch, Gentoo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drlouis
your link still doesn't work for me.
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Try it again now. I have the worst ISP in China. I switched
from a static IP to a dynamic IP, and they sometimes assign
me a Class A private IP, so DnyDNS doesn't get the proper
address.
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07-26-2006, 07:58 PM
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#430
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Member
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: Rhode Island, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Xubuntu
Posts: 348
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It's Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I used to have it when I was younger. I used to wash my hands all the time even if it wasn't necessary. My rationale is that stinky hands would make everything I touched stink as well.
I'm glad that phase of life is over... but I'm still prone to "thoroughness" when it comes to seemingly trivial things.
Sometimes people with OCD provide a vital service in society because they can't live with themselves if things aren't done properly... which makes for exceptional service or products.
Pat's "OCD" reference is that he would rather compile every piece of software in the system and have it use the right library rather than keep the .0 symlink "just to be safe." As he said, the .0 symlink would work just fine but his gut is telling him evil things about it. This is probably why he's so good at making a fine-tuned solid distro.
It's a good thing...
unless you want Slackware 11 tomorrow...
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07-26-2006, 09:24 PM
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#431
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Senior Member
Registered: Mar 2006
Distribution: SLACKWARE 4TW! =D
Posts: 1,519
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Quote:
I find it quite interesting that Slackware is the only distribution whose followers drool at the mouth waiting for the next stable release
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I'd say a good portion of the drooling syndrome occurance is that Pat runs Slack so different than many other distro's.
First off, Pat's ruined gnu/linux for so many by making us Slack junkies out of us.
Secondly, not a week goes bye that you don't have the news-wires or distrowatch amongs other's spamming RSS feeds the universe over that there's a new release candidate out for SuSe, ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu or newbuntu. (newbuntu is pronounced newb-buntu, copyright Old_Fogie, LT )
Distrowatch: the ubuntu team is pleased to announce the latest release candidate of newbuntu. According to the changelog, the team has changed the color in the upper half of the desktop blotter icon from blue to off-blue, promissing it to be the best new distro ever and ends world hunger at the same time. This new release candidate is sure to please all who aint gotta clue. According to the to-do list: next week's release candidate will change it back according to inside sources. Don't forget we'll have 18 impartial reviews (actually same guy just 'aliasing') demonstrating it's superiority to any other distro out there.
In other news : debian to release a 64 bit distro sometime when they get arround to it in Decemeber ROFL......or so we hear; and it's gonna be tops!
Whereas Pat releases the 1 to 2 final issues for Slack per year. But his release candidate is allways available, and us Slacker's dont need a web-site, or someone to package it for us.
For me I'd just like to see something else in the news for God's sake.
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07-26-2006, 09:39 PM
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#432
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Member
Registered: May 2004
Location: South Carolina
Distribution: Slackware 11.0
Posts: 606
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I don't even understand what you're trying to say. Debian releases are few and far between for a reason, and Slackware doesn't even have ANY official x64 packages, and easy to use != bad.
Windowmaker is easy to use, icewm is easy to use, Gnome is easy to use, Firefox is easy to use, mplayer is easy to use,
Easy to use means it works and works as it is intended and expected to.
And I don't see any "newbuntu" as you say, but I expect that is a joke though, but you're taking a stab at ubuntu by criticizing it for doing things that it actually doesn't do at all.
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Whereas Pat releases the 1 to 2 final issues for Slack per year. But his release candidate is allways available, and us Slacker's dont need a web-site, or someone to package it for us.
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So you're saying that Slackware is better because we have current? If so, you are aware that Mandrake/Ubuntu/Debian/Arch/Gentoo/Suse/FreeBSD/every single distro i've ever used also provide an "unstable"/"current"/"testing" branch too, often much more active than slackware's.
Not to mention that Mandrake is averaging 1 release per year, and Ubuntu is about one every 8 months or so now, and yes, they both have unstable branches for you to use.
I'm not saying anything bad about slackware, I just don't like seeing people bash other distros using incorrect stereotypes.
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07-26-2006, 09:50 PM
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#433
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Senior Member
Registered: Mar 2006
Distribution: SLACKWARE 4TW! =D
Posts: 1,519
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@ liquidtenmilion
LOL internet!!
You entirely missed the whole point of the post. In fact you added to it, mixed it up and threw it in a blender. Please, Please read it in a light-hearted, and "giddy" mind-set.
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07-26-2006, 09:53 PM
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#434
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Member
Registered: May 2004
Location: South Carolina
Distribution: Slackware 11.0
Posts: 606
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old_Fogie
@ liquidtenmilion
LOL internet!!
You entirely missed the whole point of the post. In fact you added to it, mixed it up and threw it in a blender. Please, Please read it in a light-hearted, and "giddy" mind-set.
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I know now. I read/responded to an email I got from one of my debian friends right before I saw that post, so my "mindset" so to say was still there.
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07-26-2006, 10:58 PM
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#435
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Jogja, Indonesia
Distribution: Slackware-Current
Posts: 4,816
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to those who runs -current, please take a look on the changelog. Pat has given a lot of updates to -current. Mostly are recompiled packages, due to updates to libpng (one of major library in Slack).
Doh.... it will probably takes 2 days for me to grab all of them because of the slow Internet connection in Indonesia
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